smertzasmert · 2021-02-21T23:56:01Z more backward anglo propaganda, entirely refuted by Soviet historians.....duranty correct
smertzasmert · 2021-02-21T23:56:01Z
more backward anglo propaganda, entirely refuted by Soviet historians.....duranty correct
hkoehli · smertzasmert · 2021-02-22T01:04:37Z
BluLiteDancing · 2021-02-22T02:36:20Z smertzasmert Oddly since your joining this forum, I’ve noticed that you have zero compulsion to refrain from criticism of the west, Christianity or free market capitalism. In fact, your manner is so smug as to be almost surreal but now I know why. Your peculiar revisionist view of humanity and its’ depraved genocidal tendencies is illuminating. Only one tribe escapes your criticism. Are we now to believe Marx was a Lutheran, Stalin a humanitarian, the Federal Reserve a government institution and the Holodomor a figment of our imagination lol?
BluLiteDancing · 2021-02-22T02:36:20Z
smertzasmert Oddly since your joining this forum, I’ve noticed that you have zero compulsion to refrain from criticism of the west, Christianity or free market capitalism. In fact, your manner is so smug as to be almost surreal but now I know why. Your peculiar revisionist view of humanity and its’ depraved genocidal tendencies is illuminating. Only one tribe escapes your criticism. Are we now to believe Marx was a Lutheran, Stalin a humanitarian, the Federal Reserve a government institution and the Holodomor a figment of our imagination lol?
parzival · 2021-02-22T05:15:39Z BluLiteDancing You'll never get an answer. This caricature named 'smertzasmert' is merely a troll who has no thought of 'its' own and seeks the pleasure of reaction by the 'audience' this character plays to on this site and commmondreams.org
parzival · 2021-02-22T05:15:39Z
BluLiteDancing You'll never get an answer. This caricature named 'smertzasmert' is merely a troll who has no thought of 'its' own and seeks the pleasure of reaction by the 'audience' this character plays to on this site and commmondreams.org
adipocere · 2021-02-22T09:15:56Z smertzasmert I agree with you. Holodomor is a big pearl of fascist propaganda, cultivated around a mere grain of truth. With the overthrow of the USSR, and those who overthrew it still in power in Russia today, this myth has managed to flourish virtually unchallenged. But times are a change'n... Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. But anyway, it is my understanding that SoTT is deeply influenced by the perp-turned-victim Polish mentality, so this sort of rubbish is to be expected.
adipocere · 2021-02-22T09:15:56Z
smertzasmert I agree with you. Holodomor is a big pearl of fascist propaganda, cultivated around a mere grain of truth. With the overthrow of the USSR, and those who overthrew it still in power in Russia today, this myth has managed to flourish virtually unchallenged. But times are a change'n... Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. But anyway, it is my understanding that SoTT is deeply influenced by the perp-turned-victim Polish mentality, so this sort of rubbish is to be expected.
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T09:31:35Z smertzasmert I agree with you. Holodomor is a big pearl of fascist propaganda, cultivated around a mere grain of truth. With the overthrow of the USSR, and those who overthrew it still in power in Russia today, this myth has managed to flourish virtually unchallenged. But times are a change'n... Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. But anyway, it is my understanding that SoTT is deeply influenced by the perp-turned-victim Polish mentality, so this sort of rubbish is to be expected. Sounds like once wasn't enough for the lesson to sink in. I hope you learn it better this time around. Happy Holocaust to you, then!
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T09:31:35Z
smertzasmert I agree with you. Holodomor is a big pearl of fascist propaganda, cultivated around a mere grain of truth. With the overthrow of the USSR, and those who overthrew it still in power in Russia today, this myth has managed to flourish virtually unchallenged. But times are a change'n... Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. But anyway, it is my understanding that SoTT is deeply influenced by the perp-turned-victim Polish mentality, so this sort of rubbish is to be expected. Sounds like once wasn't enough for the lesson to sink in. I hope you learn it better this time around. Happy Holocaust to you, then!
codis · 2021-02-22T09:41:32Z adipocere Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. That's what I meant. The same style of ultra-nationalist propaganda like in China. See here: Not satire: Chinese prof argues ancient western civilizations were faked to demean China A Chinese professor claims that the Egyptian pyramids, the Parthenon, and other remnants of ancient civilizations in the West, were all faked by Western scholars in order to fabricate an ancient... And not only that, I watch the ongoing whitewashing of crimes during the Stalin era. Soon, the Evil German Fascists are blamed for Katyn again.
adipocere Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. That's what I meant. The same style of ultra-nationalist propaganda like in China. See here: Not satire: Chinese prof argues ancient western civilizations were faked to demean China A Chinese professor claims that the Egyptian pyramids, the Parthenon, and other remnants of ancient civilizations in the West, were all faked by Western scholars in order to fabricate an ancient... And not only that, I watch the ongoing whitewashing of crimes during the Stalin era. Soon, the Evil German Fascists are blamed for Katyn again.
Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators.
Not satire: Chinese prof argues ancient western civilizations were faked to demean China A Chinese professor claims that the Egyptian pyramids, the Parthenon, and other remnants of ancient civilizations in the West, were all faked by Western scholars in order to fabricate an ancient...
adipocere · 2021-02-22T09:49:08Z codis You're wrong though. Ultra nationalism is not the same impulse as socialism or communism. What I am talking about is coming from the left. The nationalists on the right want to reinstate the Czar.
adipocere · 2021-02-22T09:49:08Z
codis You're wrong though. Ultra nationalism is not the same impulse as socialism or communism. What I am talking about is coming from the left. The nationalists on the right want to reinstate the Czar.
codis · 2021-02-22T10:01:24Z adipocere Of course. Since you are right, everybody else must be wrong. BTW, my wife is of Ukrainian descend ... Watching the international "news" and the reports about China's and Russia's internal one's, I can see the build-up for a war. Probably in the next 5 years ...
adipocere Of course. Since you are right, everybody else must be wrong. BTW, my wife is of Ukrainian descend ... Watching the international "news" and the reports about China's and Russia's internal one's, I can see the build-up for a war. Probably in the next 5 years ...
adipocere · 2021-02-22T10:12:29Z codis I'm not wrong just because I disagree with the echo chamber on SoTT. I'll see you and raise you: My husband is Ukrainian. My in-laws, including grandparents aged 95 and 88 still live there part time. They laughed bitterly a few years ago when I asked them about Holomodor. They did not laugh though when recounting Nazi occupation and fleeing bombing raids, though they did admit that at first, the Nazi's were polite occupiers. I agree with you about the build up to war, perhaps even a biological war. I was recently in the US embassy in Moscow. Total crickets. I saw only three people in this vast, sparkling new compound, and not even a single American security guard, nothing. It has been virtually abandoned and is working on a skeleton crew, and by emergency appointment only. That can only mean one thing.
adipocere · 2021-02-22T10:12:29Z
codis I'm not wrong just because I disagree with the echo chamber on SoTT. I'll see you and raise you: My husband is Ukrainian. My in-laws, including grandparents aged 95 and 88 still live there part time. They laughed bitterly a few years ago when I asked them about Holomodor. They did not laugh though when recounting Nazi occupation and fleeing bombing raids, though they did admit that at first, the Nazi's were polite occupiers. I agree with you about the build up to war, perhaps even a biological war. I was recently in the US embassy in Moscow. Total crickets. I saw only three people in this vast, sparkling new compound, and not even a single American security guard, nothing. It has been virtually abandoned and is working on a skeleton crew, and by emergency appointment only. That can only mean one thing.
Niall · 2021-02-22T20:12:10Z adipocere I agree with you. Holodomor is a big pearl of fascist propaganda, cultivated around a mere grain of truth. With the overthrow of the USSR, and those who overthrew it still in power in Russia today, this myth has managed to flourish virtually unchallenged. But times are a change'n... Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. But anyway, it is my understanding that SoTT is deeply influenced by the perp-turned-victim Polish mentality, so this sort of rubbish is to be expected. Best of the Web: What Poland Has to Hide About The Origins of World War II On 20 December 2019 President Vladimir Putin intervened very publicly to correct the West's fake history of the origins and waging of World War II. Four days later, obviously exasperated, he took... Best of the Web: 75th anniversary: Newly-released wartime docs debunk modern Polish myths about Soviet liberation of Warsaw Warsaw was liberated by Soviet forces 75 years ago today — and Polish officials have cloaked the pivotal event in myths ever since. Yet, newly-released historical documents help shed some light on...
adipocere I agree with you. Holodomor is a big pearl of fascist propaganda, cultivated around a mere grain of truth. With the overthrow of the USSR, and those who overthrew it still in power in Russia today, this myth has managed to flourish virtually unchallenged. But times are a change'n... Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. But anyway, it is my understanding that SoTT is deeply influenced by the perp-turned-victim Polish mentality, so this sort of rubbish is to be expected. Best of the Web: What Poland Has to Hide About The Origins of World War II On 20 December 2019 President Vladimir Putin intervened very publicly to correct the West's fake history of the origins and waging of World War II. Four days later, obviously exasperated, he took... Best of the Web: 75th anniversary: Newly-released wartime docs debunk modern Polish myths about Soviet liberation of Warsaw Warsaw was liberated by Soviet forces 75 years ago today — and Polish officials have cloaked the pivotal event in myths ever since. Yet, newly-released historical documents help shed some light on...
adipocere I agree with you. Holodomor is a big pearl of fascist propaganda, cultivated around a mere grain of truth. With the overthrow of the USSR, and those who overthrew it still in power in Russia today, this myth has managed to flourish virtually unchallenged. But times are a change'n... Here in Russia there is a resurgence of youth reexamining post-soviet "truths" which were handed to them by the colonizers and their collaborators. But anyway, it is my understanding that SoTT is deeply influenced by the perp-turned-victim Polish mentality, so this sort of rubbish is to be expected.
Best of the Web: What Poland Has to Hide About The Origins of World War II On 20 December 2019 President Vladimir Putin intervened very publicly to correct the West's fake history of the origins and waging of World War II. Four days later, obviously exasperated, he took...
Best of the Web: 75th anniversary: Newly-released wartime docs debunk modern Polish myths about Soviet liberation of Warsaw Warsaw was liberated by Soviet forces 75 years ago today — and Polish officials have cloaked the pivotal event in myths ever since. Yet, newly-released historical documents help shed some light on...
Xerox · 2021-02-23T05:53:40Z Niall Annexations by Poland in 1938 The partition of Czechoslovakia after Munich Agreement Within the region originally demanded from Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany in 1938 was an important railway junction city of Bohumín. The Poles regarded the city as of crucial importance to the area and to Polish interests. On 28 September, Beneš composed a note to the Polish administration offering to reopen the debate surrounding the territorial demarcation in Těšínsko in the interest of mutual relations, but he delayed in sending it in hopes of good news from London and Paris, which failed to come. Beneš then turned to the Soviet leadership in Moscow, which had begun a partial mobilisation in eastern Belarus and the Ukrainian SSR and threatened Poland with the dissolution of the Soviet-Polish non-aggression pact. (Similar pact as USSR had with Germany) [ Link ]
Niall Annexations by Poland in 1938 The partition of Czechoslovakia after Munich Agreement Within the region originally demanded from Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany in 1938 was an important railway junction city of Bohumín. The Poles regarded the city as of crucial importance to the area and to Polish interests. On 28 September, Beneš composed a note to the Polish administration offering to reopen the debate surrounding the territorial demarcation in Těšínsko in the interest of mutual relations, but he delayed in sending it in hopes of good news from London and Paris, which failed to come. Beneš then turned to the Soviet leadership in Moscow, which had begun a partial mobilisation in eastern Belarus and the Ukrainian SSR and threatened Poland with the dissolution of the Soviet-Polish non-aggression pact. (Similar pact as USSR had with Germany) [ Link ]
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T08:08:14Z BluLiteDancing your self uglified amerikan stupidity is tiresome, as is your straw man fallacies....I criticize bourgeois western backwardness, capitalism (there is no free markets in USA), quit lying--I do not criticize religion per se---I criticize hypocrites as Kandinsky observed many that describe themselves as Christians and Jews are actually atheists The religious philosopher, N Berdayaev fully endorsed marxist analysis, never renounced his Russian orthodox beliefs...he wrote, "it is forbidden for a true Christian...to hate Jews...this is one of the advantages of Christianity"....because you are ignorant and insecure you personalize like all amerikans...u cannot comprehend the meaning "revisionist" and you conflate my evaluation of anglos with humanity---your peculiar racism...."amerikans have always been genocidal, enjoying killing from afar". Philip Slater....I do not conflate you with civilized peoples....Holodomor was confined to ukraine/poland---your question about Marx, Stalin is childish "the amerikans are the living refutation of the cartesian cogito ergo sum. amerikans are yet they do not think. the amerikan mind puerile, primitive lacks characteristic form and is therefor open to any standardization". Julius Evola "nothing in amerika can thrive unless inflated by hyperbole and gilded with a fine coat of fraud. amerikans cannot think except by means of slogans--they identify garbage as quality. the stupidity and ignorance of amerikans has long been a topic of hilarity in Europe". Paul Fussell there is LOL
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T08:08:14Z
BluLiteDancing your self uglified amerikan stupidity is tiresome, as is your straw man fallacies....I criticize bourgeois western backwardness, capitalism (there is no free markets in USA), quit lying--I do not criticize religion per se---I criticize hypocrites as Kandinsky observed many that describe themselves as Christians and Jews are actually atheists The religious philosopher, N Berdayaev fully endorsed marxist analysis, never renounced his Russian orthodox beliefs...he wrote, "it is forbidden for a true Christian...to hate Jews...this is one of the advantages of Christianity"....because you are ignorant and insecure you personalize like all amerikans...u cannot comprehend the meaning "revisionist" and you conflate my evaluation of anglos with humanity---your peculiar racism...."amerikans have always been genocidal, enjoying killing from afar". Philip Slater....I do not conflate you with civilized peoples....Holodomor was confined to ukraine/poland---your question about Marx, Stalin is childish "the amerikans are the living refutation of the cartesian cogito ergo sum. amerikans are yet they do not think. the amerikan mind puerile, primitive lacks characteristic form and is therefor open to any standardization". Julius Evola "nothing in amerika can thrive unless inflated by hyperbole and gilded with a fine coat of fraud. amerikans cannot think except by means of slogans--they identify garbage as quality. the stupidity and ignorance of amerikans has long been a topic of hilarity in Europe". Paul Fussell there is LOL
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T08:09:54Z hkoehli tiresome immaturity
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T08:09:54Z
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T16:19:17Z smertzasmert The only sane response to delusional communist apologists.
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T16:19:17Z
smertzasmert The only sane response to delusional communist apologists.
smertzasmert · 2021-02-28T02:30:51Z adipocere I live in Novosibirsk, except in winter
smertzasmert · 2021-02-28T02:30:51Z
adipocere I live in Novosibirsk, except in winter
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-28T04:17:03Z smertzasmert Do you snow ski? Despite being from Florida, I have since around 1980. LOVE snow! (Florida will do that.) RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-28T04:17:03Z
smertzasmert Do you snow ski? Despite being from Florida, I have since around 1980. LOVE snow! (Florida will do that.) RC
LindaMay · 2021-03-05T16:47:10Z BluLiteDancing i like that smartsmeart has a voice ...and a mic. The name is tough on me but i ll leave it this time
LindaMay · 2021-03-05T16:47:10Z
BluLiteDancing i like that smartsmeart has a voice ...and a mic. The name is tough on me but i ll leave it this time
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:34:56Z codis for you truth is incoherent LOL
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:34:56Z
codis for you truth is incoherent LOL
scrutinizer · 2021-02-22T01:54:07Z All you need to know about the Khazar sacks-o-sh^t that killed AND starved millions in Russia you can learn from Solzenitsyn - Gee, he might know a thing or 2 since he was THERE...
scrutinizer · 2021-02-22T01:54:07Z
All you need to know about the Khazar sacks-o-sh^t that killed AND starved millions in Russia you can learn from Solzenitsyn - Gee, he might know a thing or 2 since he was THERE...
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T05:07:51Z scrutinizer You can do better than that.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T05:07:51Z
scrutinizer You can do better than that.
Xerox · 2021-02-23T05:21:41Z scrutinizer The Organization for Jewish Colonization in Russia (Yiddish: ייִדישע קאָלאָניזאַציע אָרגאַניזאַציע אין רוסלאַנד, Yidishe Kolonizatsye Organizatsye in Rusland), commonly known by its transliterated acronym of ICOR, was a Communist-sponsored mass organization in North America devoted to supporting the settlement of Jews in new collective settlements, firstly in the newly established Ukrainian Soviet Republic and Southern Russia (Stavropol Krai), and latterly in the Jewish socialist republic of Birobidzhan in the Soviet Union. The organization was founded in the United States in 1924 and soon spread to Canada. [ Link ]
scrutinizer The Organization for Jewish Colonization in Russia (Yiddish: ייִדישע קאָלאָניזאַציע אָרגאַניזאַציע אין רוסלאַנד, Yidishe Kolonizatsye Organizatsye in Rusland), commonly known by its transliterated acronym of ICOR, was a Communist-sponsored mass organization in North America devoted to supporting the settlement of Jews in new collective settlements, firstly in the newly established Ukrainian Soviet Republic and Southern Russia (Stavropol Krai), and latterly in the Jewish socialist republic of Birobidzhan in the Soviet Union. The organization was founded in the United States in 1924 and soon spread to Canada. [ Link ]
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:37:52Z hkoehli S is disliked in Russia today for his hyperbole and xenophobia
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:37:52Z
hkoehli S is disliked in Russia today for his hyperbole and xenophobia
richie rich · 2021-02-22T05:43:05Z the fact that one can post 1h24min of discussion of the Holodomor and the ifs and whys and if it's essentially true but one is not legally allowed to do the same thing with the 'holocaust', speaks volumes. The constant 'ostrich' tactic vis-à-vis the jewish origins of and driving force behind bolshevism at sott also speaks volumes. Hence not a lot of 'mind' and very little here that 'matters'
richie rich · 2021-02-22T05:43:05Z
the fact that one can post 1h24min of discussion of the Holodomor and the ifs and whys and if it's essentially true but one is not legally allowed to do the same thing with the 'holocaust', speaks volumes. The constant 'ostrich' tactic vis-à-vis the jewish origins of and driving force behind bolshevism at sott also speaks volumes. Hence not a lot of 'mind' and very little here that 'matters'
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T15:48:31Z richie rich It's not a Jewish problem. It's a psychopathology problem. Don't fall for identity politics.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T15:48:31Z
richie rich It's not a Jewish problem. It's a psychopathology problem. Don't fall for identity politics.
richie rich · 2021-02-22T18:01:36Z hkoehli there's absolutely zero politics involved, just a fucked up religion that engenders the psychopathology that you talk of...
richie rich · 2021-02-22T18:01:36Z
hkoehli there's absolutely zero politics involved, just a fucked up religion that engenders the psychopathology that you talk of...
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T18:13:39Z richie rich I said identity politics, of which there is plenty involved. But I see your point, and don't wholly disagree. Religions like that can and do amplify psychopathology, and create a lot of functional psychopathology on top of that. Just try to avoid sweeping generalizations. That's exactly what the Bolsheviks did.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T18:13:39Z
richie rich I said identity politics, of which there is plenty involved. But I see your point, and don't wholly disagree. Religions like that can and do amplify psychopathology, and create a lot of functional psychopathology on top of that. Just try to avoid sweeping generalizations. That's exactly what the Bolsheviks did.
richie rich · 2021-02-22T18:35:24Z hkoehli their generalisation was goyim bad... end of... as has been the generalisation of said religion from the start... the 3 abrahamic religions all breed psychopathology through their dislocation from nature... jehova and his offshoots, is a vindictive wanna be tosser... i hold as much disdain for christians and muslims as i do for religious jews... they're just not quite so dangerous
richie rich · 2021-02-22T18:35:24Z
hkoehli their generalisation was goyim bad... end of... as has been the generalisation of said religion from the start... the 3 abrahamic religions all breed psychopathology through their dislocation from nature... jehova and his offshoots, is a vindictive wanna be tosser... i hold as much disdain for christians and muslims as i do for religious jews... they're just not quite so dangerous
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T18:39:58Z richie rich Still doing it. Sad.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T18:39:58Z
richie rich Still doing it. Sad.
richie rich · 2021-02-22T18:43:41Z hkoehli sadness is a waste of energy man... like hope... just live
richie rich · 2021-02-22T18:43:41Z
hkoehli sadness is a waste of energy man... like hope... just live
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T19:02:51Z richie rich [ Link ]
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T19:02:51Z
Niall · hkoehli · 2021-02-22T20:15:13Z
richie rich · 2021-02-23T05:10:47Z hkoehli waste of energy
richie rich · 2021-02-23T05:10:47Z
Xerox · 2021-02-23T05:34:31Z hkoehli We know that religion, ethnicity, young people was and is gr8tly used by imperialism to achieve goals. Creation of Israel is job of Britain for protection of Suez canal. Britain created whole ideology - zionism- to achieve goal. Despite fact that biblical jews lived there and never left Levant because biblical jews, authors of bible etc are Palestinians. For all dirty trix Britain was called Perfidious Albion. Britain has no small role in creation of bolshevim USSR, together with partners in imperialism USA and Germany. And eventualy WW2 and holocaust as well. See Haavara agreement. And Britain has fingers in Armenian genocide as well. Britain wanted Palestine so should destroy Ottomans first etc. Perfidious Albion [ Link ]
hkoehli We know that religion, ethnicity, young people was and is gr8tly used by imperialism to achieve goals. Creation of Israel is job of Britain for protection of Suez canal. Britain created whole ideology - zionism- to achieve goal. Despite fact that biblical jews lived there and never left Levant because biblical jews, authors of bible etc are Palestinians. For all dirty trix Britain was called Perfidious Albion. Britain has no small role in creation of bolshevim USSR, together with partners in imperialism USA and Germany. And eventualy WW2 and holocaust as well. See Haavara agreement. And Britain has fingers in Armenian genocide as well. Britain wanted Palestine so should destroy Ottomans first etc. Perfidious Albion [ Link ]
richie rich · 2021-02-24T06:48:46Z Xerox britain and britons were just stupid and blind, and still are... as is the vast majority of the world; maybe you should read a little revisionist literature (if you're allowed to)
richie rich · 2021-02-24T06:48:46Z
Xerox britain and britons were just stupid and blind, and still are... as is the vast majority of the world; maybe you should read a little revisionist literature (if you're allowed to)
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:41:12Z Xerox as Berdayev, Mannheim, Simmel among many, observed religion reflected the structure of each particular society
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:41:12Z
Xerox as Berdayev, Mannheim, Simmel among many, observed religion reflected the structure of each particular society
codis · 2021-02-22T06:35:19Z Jones learns that the Communist nation's rapid development is due in large part to the amount of grain it is extracting from the Ukraine. The scandal drives Jones on an odyssey and discovery of truth and horror as he learns of what later became known as the 'Holodomor famine'. That cannot be true - it was just a patch of bad weather That's what all my Russian acquantances tell me ...
Jones learns that the Communist nation's rapid development is due in large part to the amount of grain it is extracting from the Ukraine. The scandal drives Jones on an odyssey and discovery of truth and horror as he learns of what later became known as the 'Holodomor famine'. That cannot be true - it was just a patch of bad weather That's what all my Russian acquantances tell me ...
Jones learns that the Communist nation's rapid development is due in large part to the amount of grain it is extracting from the Ukraine. The scandal drives Jones on an odyssey and discovery of truth and horror as he learns of what later became known as the 'Holodomor famine'.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T15:49:14Z codis Russians are great, but even they can be silly and fall prey to conversive thinking - like everyone else.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T15:49:14Z
codis Russians are great, but even they can be silly and fall prey to conversive thinking - like everyone else.
codis · 2021-02-22T16:53:40Z hkoehli Not sure whom you mean with "Russians". I mean, the expensive movies glorifying Stalin lately did cost millions. It was not the average Russians financing and broadcasting them. My wife watches them occasionally, between her Russian-language chick flicks. I see no fundamental difference between Germans follwing Hitler, Russians glorifying Stalin, Turks denying the Armenian genocide, or Americans supporting the Afghanistan / Iraq wars.
hkoehli Not sure whom you mean with "Russians". I mean, the expensive movies glorifying Stalin lately did cost millions. It was not the average Russians financing and broadcasting them. My wife watches them occasionally, between her Russian-language chick flicks. I see no fundamental difference between Germans follwing Hitler, Russians glorifying Stalin, Turks denying the Armenian genocide, or Americans supporting the Afghanistan / Iraq wars.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T17:20:06Z codis I was just trying to be polite! On the scale of evil, a lot of the types you mention are just dumb and misguided, IMO. A portion of them have the capacity to follow through on their beliefs with actions that harm others. But as long as they're just idiots holding crazy opinions, I can forgive that. I know I've held a lot of dumb opinions in my life, and I hope that isn't enough to make me morally equivalent to a Gulag guard.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T17:20:06Z
codis I was just trying to be polite! On the scale of evil, a lot of the types you mention are just dumb and misguided, IMO. A portion of them have the capacity to follow through on their beliefs with actions that harm others. But as long as they're just idiots holding crazy opinions, I can forgive that. I know I've held a lot of dumb opinions in my life, and I hope that isn't enough to make me morally equivalent to a Gulag guard.
codis · 2021-02-22T20:40:12Z hkoehli I know, and I didn't take offense. The thing is, the state will always take advantage of the non-thinking population, and whip them up when they made out a new enemy, or want to go to war. And said non-thinking population will hate their other contry's counterpart with fervour. UNtil they are told otherwise. Neither China nor Russia are exceptions. And seeing the direction of their current propaganda, I don't look forward to the time the Western/American military power ceases to be a restraining factor.
hkoehli I know, and I didn't take offense. The thing is, the state will always take advantage of the non-thinking population, and whip them up when they made out a new enemy, or want to go to war. And said non-thinking population will hate their other contry's counterpart with fervour. UNtil they are told otherwise. Neither China nor Russia are exceptions. And seeing the direction of their current propaganda, I don't look forward to the time the Western/American military power ceases to be a restraining factor.
smertzasmert · 2021-03-02T01:02:34Z codis more false equivalence national socialism followed the oppression of Germans by treaty of Versailles... During Stalin era conditions improved markedly for peoples in USSR in Georgia they have retained statues of Stalin
smertzasmert · 2021-03-02T01:02:34Z
codis more false equivalence national socialism followed the oppression of Germans by treaty of Versailles... During Stalin era conditions improved markedly for peoples in USSR in Georgia they have retained statues of Stalin
codis · 2021-03-02T07:09:10Z smertzasmert What an honor - the Russian chat bot answers me
smertzasmert What an honor - the Russian chat bot answers me
parzival · 2021-03-02T08:07:25Z codis The delusional Russian chat bot that claims to be a Ph.D * *
parzival · 2021-03-02T08:07:25Z
codis The delusional Russian chat bot that claims to be a Ph.D * *
codis · 2021-03-02T08:26:42Z parzival I have NEVER seen a coherent post from him, i.e. forming a grammatically proper sentence.
parzival I have NEVER seen a coherent post from him, i.e. forming a grammatically proper sentence.
parzival · codis · 2021-03-02T09:01:59Z
BluLiteDancing · 2021-03-04T19:27:30Z smertzasmert Sure, minus the 30-50 million native Russians both he and his benevolently humanitarian Bolshevik brother’s cleansed. I’m sure people had a gay ol time under Uncle Joe. Then he built that amazing Iron Curtain to keep all those pesky capitalists at bay. Lest we not forget the humanitarian Cheka nor KGB keeping the peace in beautiful Mother Russia. By the way, is the minimum wage today truly only .66/hr? Do Russians appoint leaders’ for life or just Uncle Joe and Vladimir P?
BluLiteDancing · 2021-03-04T19:27:30Z
smertzasmert Sure, minus the 30-50 million native Russians both he and his benevolently humanitarian Bolshevik brother’s cleansed. I’m sure people had a gay ol time under Uncle Joe. Then he built that amazing Iron Curtain to keep all those pesky capitalists at bay. Lest we not forget the humanitarian Cheka nor KGB keeping the peace in beautiful Mother Russia. By the way, is the minimum wage today truly only .66/hr? Do Russians appoint leaders’ for life or just Uncle Joe and Vladimir P?
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:17:49Z codis the child responds---amusing
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:17:49Z
codis the child responds---amusing
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:19:20Z codis blind--- clearly! "the germans would rather die than rebel". M Bakunin
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:19:20Z
codis blind--- clearly! "the germans would rather die than rebel". M Bakunin
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:20:18Z BluLiteDancing your fake data is expected from a reactionary fascist
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:20:18Z
BluLiteDancing your fake data is expected from a reactionary fascist
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-05T21:00:44Z smertzasmert In general, Russia suffers from a frightening poverty in the sphere of facts and a frightening wealth of all types of arguments. -- Anton Chekhov I win! But, They're professionals at this in Russia, so no matter how many Jell-O shots or Jager shooters you might have downed at college mixers, no matter how good a drinker you might think you are, don't forget that the Russians - any Russian - can drink you under the table. -- Anthony Bourdain So there! RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-05T21:00:44Z
smertzasmert In general, Russia suffers from a frightening poverty in the sphere of facts and a frightening wealth of all types of arguments. -- Anton Chekhov I win! But, They're professionals at this in Russia, so no matter how many Jell-O shots or Jager shooters you might have downed at college mixers, no matter how good a drinker you might think you are, don't forget that the Russians - any Russian - can drink you under the table. -- Anthony Bourdain So there! RC
In general, Russia suffers from a frightening poverty in the sphere of facts and a frightening wealth of all types of arguments. -- Anton Chekhov
They're professionals at this in Russia, so no matter how many Jell-O shots or Jager shooters you might have downed at college mixers, no matter how good a drinker you might think you are, don't forget that the Russians - any Russian - can drink you under the table. -- Anthony Bourdain
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:43:55Z codis of course you do not "SEE" NORH AMERIKANS, w the exception of Russians and Jews have always been comprised of the lowest most incompetent classes from other societies u r 1 proof
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:43:55Z
codis of course you do not "SEE" NORH AMERIKANS, w the exception of Russians and Jews have always been comprised of the lowest most incompetent classes from other societies u r 1 proof
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:56:15Z Rowan Cocoan I admire Chekov "the very essence of democracy is advertising". A C you win? LOL living 2 centuries ago when Tocqueville wrote, I know of know nation where there is less independence of mind and any real freedom than debate than amerika" "of all peoples in advanced stage of ECONOMIC civilization amerikans are least accessible to long views, always and everywhere in a hurry to get rich they give no thought to remote consequences, they see only present advantages....amerikans do not remember, they do not FEEL: amerikans live in a materialist dream". Moisede Ostrogorski "amerikans are not at all happy: they feel themselves lacking in something...all of the sensitiveness has dried up in them. the crystallization of love is impossible in amerika. I admire their kind of happiness by I do not envy it: it is the happiness of a different and inferior species". Stendhal "amerikans never take responsibility for their failures, only their "successes". Geofrey Gorer again you lose tiresome ignorance
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T23:56:15Z
Rowan Cocoan I admire Chekov "the very essence of democracy is advertising". A C you win? LOL living 2 centuries ago when Tocqueville wrote, I know of know nation where there is less independence of mind and any real freedom than debate than amerika" "of all peoples in advanced stage of ECONOMIC civilization amerikans are least accessible to long views, always and everywhere in a hurry to get rich they give no thought to remote consequences, they see only present advantages....amerikans do not remember, they do not FEEL: amerikans live in a materialist dream". Moisede Ostrogorski "amerikans are not at all happy: they feel themselves lacking in something...all of the sensitiveness has dried up in them. the crystallization of love is impossible in amerika. I admire their kind of happiness by I do not envy it: it is the happiness of a different and inferior species". Stendhal "amerikans never take responsibility for their failures, only their "successes". Geofrey Gorer again you lose tiresome ignorance
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-06T00:27:40Z smertzasmert Let's see: 1: I admire Chekov. Cool. I wish I was more familiar with him, and though I've downloaded his works, I can't say that I've read them. Insert here your reply. Will it be about illiteracy of Americans? Or RC's honesty? I am truly curious (but I honestly don't expect a reasonable response. Please surprise me. I detect that you either don't know or don't care that I'm your last defender here. If that's the case, I again say : Whatever your honest personal opinion is, you ain't helping it and EVERYONE usually is (and should be) interested in advancing their particular positions, or . . . what's a heaven comment for?* 2. "the very essence of democracy is advertising". A C OK, As I wrote elsewhere today, I first said at around the age of 15-16: "If all Americans bought stuff like I do, Madison Avenue would go bankrupt." Your thoughts on my reply to #2? 3. "you win? LOL" I fear that you missed the joke. 4: Living 2 two centuries ago* when Tocqueville wrote, I know of know nation where there is less independence of mind and any real freedom than debate than America. amerika . . . Sorry, but for the fact that I love clear communications (for all the 'typically suspect'- nowadays verboten as 'anti-PC'/pro-white-supremacy - reasons), I wouldn't here bother to point out that your words makes what you apparently intended to write nonsensical. Are you saying that 'when Tocqueville wrote, you then knew? I doubt it. Likewise, your phonic learning betrays you at "I know of know nation." You clearly meant "no nation." I hereby request clarification. I'll happily answer the omitted remnants of your points upon your answering my reply. Finally, I again say that if you respect your sources, at least you should be true to them! R.C. *Easy bonus points! WHAT am I there referencing? RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-06T00:27:40Z
smertzasmert Let's see: 1: I admire Chekov. Cool. I wish I was more familiar with him, and though I've downloaded his works, I can't say that I've read them. Insert here your reply. Will it be about illiteracy of Americans? Or RC's honesty? I am truly curious (but I honestly don't expect a reasonable response. Please surprise me. I detect that you either don't know or don't care that I'm your last defender here. If that's the case, I again say : Whatever your honest personal opinion is, you ain't helping it and EVERYONE usually is (and should be) interested in advancing their particular positions, or . . . what's a heaven comment for?* 2. "the very essence of democracy is advertising". A C OK, As I wrote elsewhere today, I first said at around the age of 15-16: "If all Americans bought stuff like I do, Madison Avenue would go bankrupt." Your thoughts on my reply to #2? 3. "you win? LOL" I fear that you missed the joke. 4: Living 2 two centuries ago* when Tocqueville wrote, I know of know nation where there is less independence of mind and any real freedom than debate than America. amerika . . . Sorry, but for the fact that I love clear communications (for all the 'typically suspect'- nowadays verboten as 'anti-PC'/pro-white-supremacy - reasons), I wouldn't here bother to point out that your words makes what you apparently intended to write nonsensical. Are you saying that 'when Tocqueville wrote, you then knew? I doubt it. Likewise, your phonic learning betrays you at "I know of know nation." You clearly meant "no nation." I hereby request clarification. I'll happily answer the omitted remnants of your points upon your answering my reply. Finally, I again say that if you respect your sources, at least you should be true to them! R.C. *Easy bonus points! WHAT am I there referencing? RC
Whatever your honest personal opinion is, you ain't helping it and EVERYONE usually is (and should be) interested in advancing their particular positions, or . . . what's a heaven comment for?*
codis · 2021-03-06T18:19:19Z smertzasmert Oh, I see you can write mostly cohesive sentence bite of more than 4 words ... I feel honored. But to insult me, you must try harder. Much harder ...
smertzasmert Oh, I see you can write mostly cohesive sentence bite of more than 4 words ... I feel honored. But to insult me, you must try harder. Much harder ...
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-06T22:12:06Z Rowan Cocoan Typo correction: your words make what you apparently intended to write nonsensical. RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-06T22:12:06Z
Rowan Cocoan Typo correction: your words make what you apparently intended to write nonsensical. RC
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T07:05:18Z Kinda makes you want to invest in some deep food storage solutions, doesn't it? The Biden admin is already making moves to destroy the food supply, and Bill Gates is getting into controlling the food distribution system...
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T07:05:18Z
Kinda makes you want to invest in some deep food storage solutions, doesn't it? The Biden admin is already making moves to destroy the food supply, and Bill Gates is getting into controlling the food distribution system...
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T07:55:28Z Actually... I get how the Holodomor happened. -And the whole "Wreckers" thing, -which always seemed a little odd and hard to put into place. I get it now: With the Leftists holding the controlling cities knowing and taking the threat seriously when the conservatives say, "Yeah, who grows all your food, (you socialist scum)?" -I can easily see a strong fear response and justification of food seizures, sending the military into the heartlands to rob farming communities and criminalize growers. No wonder they don't like an armed populace! Consider the over-reaction of DC locking down, importing tens of thousands of troops and putting up miles of riot fence; -all that out of a fear that they will be (rightfully) ousted by an angry populace who want their government back. That display of fortification is a material example of their fear expressed.
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T07:55:28Z
Actually... I get how the Holodomor happened. -And the whole "Wreckers" thing, -which always seemed a little odd and hard to put into place. I get it now: With the Leftists holding the controlling cities knowing and taking the threat seriously when the conservatives say, "Yeah, who grows all your food, (you socialist scum)?" -I can easily see a strong fear response and justification of food seizures, sending the military into the heartlands to rob farming communities and criminalize growers. No wonder they don't like an armed populace! Consider the over-reaction of DC locking down, importing tens of thousands of troops and putting up miles of riot fence; -all that out of a fear that they will be (rightfully) ousted by an angry populace who want their government back. That display of fortification is a material example of their fear expressed.
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-22T15:56:16Z Woodsman Excellent analysis. RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-22T15:56:16Z
Woodsman Excellent analysis. RC
parzival · 2021-02-22T08:07:49Z In place of Mr. Jones, would be nice if we did a critique of the banned movie 'THE GREEN BEAUTIFUL_ LA BELLE VERTE' Provided here [ Link ] with (ENGLISH SUBS) for those who can't speak French. * Thought it might be a bit more uplifting...
parzival · 2021-02-22T08:07:49Z
In place of Mr. Jones, would be nice if we did a critique of the banned movie 'THE GREEN BEAUTIFUL_ LA BELLE VERTE' Provided here [ Link ] with (ENGLISH SUBS) for those who can't speak French. * Thought it might be a bit more uplifting...
adipocere · 2021-02-22T09:40:59Z I'll add rebuttals (the other side of the story) here, for whatever pissing in the wind is worth: [ Link ] Holodomor Hoax: The Anatomy of a Lie Invented by West's Propaganda Machine [ Link ] The “Holodomor” and the Film “Bitter Harvest” are Fascist Lies
adipocere · 2021-02-22T09:40:59Z
I'll add rebuttals (the other side of the story) here, for whatever pissing in the wind is worth: [ Link ] Holodomor Hoax: The Anatomy of a Lie Invented by West's Propaganda Machine [ Link ] The “Holodomor” and the Film “Bitter Harvest” are Fascist Lies
bj0311 · 2021-02-22T13:41:01Z adipocere [ Link ] Timothy Synder working from Soviet records. [ Link ] Vasily Grossman a Soviet citizen and war correspondent. There are many other valid references as well, researched from Soviet archives. The difference between Lenin's famine of 1921-1922 that also killed millions, was only that Lenin allowed foreign aid whereas Stalin did not. You sound like my daughter who lives in Moscow, hating Putin and those keeping Russia Russian, but refusing to see the reality of history. Your "resurgence of youth" is a dangerous thing because agitators from charitable organizations like the CIA are right there to help you with your angst. And never forget that "the colonizers and their collaborators" who want to devour Russia are only kept at bay by people like your president. I would also say your husband's grandparents were either part of it or too ashamed to admit it ever happened. My mother-in-law still thinks Stalin was a great guy even though he sent her husband to the gulag.
adipocere [ Link ] Timothy Synder working from Soviet records. [ Link ] Vasily Grossman a Soviet citizen and war correspondent. There are many other valid references as well, researched from Soviet archives. The difference between Lenin's famine of 1921-1922 that also killed millions, was only that Lenin allowed foreign aid whereas Stalin did not. You sound like my daughter who lives in Moscow, hating Putin and those keeping Russia Russian, but refusing to see the reality of history. Your "resurgence of youth" is a dangerous thing because agitators from charitable organizations like the CIA are right there to help you with your angst. And never forget that "the colonizers and their collaborators" who want to devour Russia are only kept at bay by people like your president. I would also say your husband's grandparents were either part of it or too ashamed to admit it ever happened. My mother-in-law still thinks Stalin was a great guy even though he sent her husband to the gulag.
codis · 2021-02-22T13:58:01Z bj0311 Ask a Chinese about Mao's "Great Leap", or ask a Turk about the Armenian genocide. The truth does not matter...
bj0311 Ask a Chinese about Mao's "Great Leap", or ask a Turk about the Armenian genocide. The truth does not matter...
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T15:52:00Z adipocere We discussed Furr's article during the show. He's an idiot.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T15:52:00Z
adipocere We discussed Furr's article during the show. He's an idiot.
adipocere · 2021-02-22T17:51:14Z @ bj0311 You assume way too much to base anything but impressions and emotions on. My mother-in-law still thinks Stalin was a great guy even though he sent her husband to the gulag. And you appear to have the reasoning skills of a 5 year old. My brother spent 10 years in federal prison, but I don't blame the president for that. I can still love my brother, admit he was a criminal and deserved to go to prison, and separate that from the personality and national-level policies of a sitting president (Bush, who I hated by the way) all in one fell swoop.
adipocere · 2021-02-22T17:51:14Z
@ bj0311 You assume way too much to base anything but impressions and emotions on. My mother-in-law still thinks Stalin was a great guy even though he sent her husband to the gulag. And you appear to have the reasoning skills of a 5 year old. My brother spent 10 years in federal prison, but I don't blame the president for that. I can still love my brother, admit he was a criminal and deserved to go to prison, and separate that from the personality and national-level policies of a sitting president (Bush, who I hated by the way) all in one fell swoop.
My mother-in-law still thinks Stalin was a great guy even though he sent her husband to the gulag.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T18:01:22Z adipocere Based on what you say, your brother committed an actual crime and was sent to prison for it. Many gulag detainees were sent for political 'crimes' - or no crime at all. Not a good comparison. Unless you're a revolutionary who thinks expressing "counterrevolutionary" opinions is worthy of a decade of forced labor, of course.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T18:01:22Z
adipocere Based on what you say, your brother committed an actual crime and was sent to prison for it. Many gulag detainees were sent for political 'crimes' - or no crime at all. Not a good comparison. Unless you're a revolutionary who thinks expressing "counterrevolutionary" opinions is worthy of a decade of forced labor, of course.
adipocere · 2021-02-22T18:57:11Z hkoehli I think the gulags were prisons in an underdeveloped country where the climate was inescapably harsh. When you use the English word for it, and realize that the vast majority of gulag inmates were criminals who served their sentences and returned to society, then it sort of takes the wind out of it. Sure there were political prisoners, as there are anywhere and everywhere. I wonder if you would sit down on your show and wax indignant about Black Panthers who were framed up by the FBI and sentenced to rot in prison for life here in America, or about Gitmo inmates imprisoned now for over a decade in an illegal in every sense of the word black site that itself is illegally occupying the communist country of Cuba. Probably not. You sympathize with the fascist version of events, even if you find that unpalatable. In 30 years, your ideological protege will be pontificating on how evil (the dead and gone) Assad was for gassing his own people, and he would know it was true because he will have read a book written by White Helmets, moving memoirs from a US Ambassador and some blog by a gay girl in Damascus. Oh he also would cite some Syrain govt statistics helpfully provided by the good folks over at The Syrian Observatory For Human Rights.
adipocere · 2021-02-22T18:57:11Z
hkoehli I think the gulags were prisons in an underdeveloped country where the climate was inescapably harsh. When you use the English word for it, and realize that the vast majority of gulag inmates were criminals who served their sentences and returned to society, then it sort of takes the wind out of it. Sure there were political prisoners, as there are anywhere and everywhere. I wonder if you would sit down on your show and wax indignant about Black Panthers who were framed up by the FBI and sentenced to rot in prison for life here in America, or about Gitmo inmates imprisoned now for over a decade in an illegal in every sense of the word black site that itself is illegally occupying the communist country of Cuba. Probably not. You sympathize with the fascist version of events, even if you find that unpalatable. In 30 years, your ideological protege will be pontificating on how evil (the dead and gone) Assad was for gassing his own people, and he would know it was true because he will have read a book written by White Helmets, moving memoirs from a US Ambassador and some blog by a gay girl in Damascus. Oh he also would cite some Syrain govt statistics helpfully provided by the good folks over at The Syrian Observatory For Human Rights.
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T19:38:40Z adipocere Sort of takes the wind out of it? Callous. One in ten gulag inmates died there. "Human nature demands that vile matters be haloed by an over-compensatory mystique in order to silence one’s conscience and to deceive consciousness and critical faculties, whether one’s own or those of others." Re: Black Panthers and Gitmo inmates, keep mind-reading. It will get you very far in life. Re: future Syrian history. If it was an official government document admitting to it, yeah. I highly doubt that exists, though, so my "ideological protege" can take a hike. The Soviets executed 353,074 people in 1937. That's according to their own documents . But I'm sure they had "good reasons", right? SOTT Focus: The Gulag In Numbers: Was Stalinism Really That Bad? I'm currently reading a new book by Russian-American military expert Andrei Martyanov, Losing Military Supremacy: The Myopia of American Strategic Planning. It's a great book. The writing is...
hkoehli · 2021-02-22T19:38:40Z
adipocere Sort of takes the wind out of it? Callous. One in ten gulag inmates died there. "Human nature demands that vile matters be haloed by an over-compensatory mystique in order to silence one’s conscience and to deceive consciousness and critical faculties, whether one’s own or those of others." Re: Black Panthers and Gitmo inmates, keep mind-reading. It will get you very far in life. Re: future Syrian history. If it was an official government document admitting to it, yeah. I highly doubt that exists, though, so my "ideological protege" can take a hike. The Soviets executed 353,074 people in 1937. That's according to their own documents . But I'm sure they had "good reasons", right? SOTT Focus: The Gulag In Numbers: Was Stalinism Really That Bad? I'm currently reading a new book by Russian-American military expert Andrei Martyanov, Losing Military Supremacy: The Myopia of American Strategic Planning. It's a great book. The writing is...
SOTT Focus: The Gulag In Numbers: Was Stalinism Really That Bad? I'm currently reading a new book by Russian-American military expert Andrei Martyanov, Losing Military Supremacy: The Myopia of American Strategic Planning. It's a great book. The writing is...
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T19:59:03Z hkoehli I think the gulags were prisons in an underdeveloped country where the climate was inescapably harsh. When you use the English word for it, and realize that the vast majority of gulag inmates were criminals who served their sentences and returned to society, then it sort of takes the wind out of it. Sure there were political prisoners, as there are anywhere and everywhere. I wonder if you would sit down on your show and wax indignant about Black Panthers who were framed up by the FBI and sentenced to rot in prison for life here in America, or about Gitmo inmates imprisoned now for over a decade in an illegal in every sense of the word black site that itself is illegally occupying the communist country of Cuba. Probably not. You sympathize with the fascist version of events, even if you find that unpalatable. In 30 years, your ideological protege will be pontificating on how evil (the dead and gone) Assad was for gassing his own people, and he would know it was true because he will have read a book written by White Helmets, moving memoirs from a US Ambassador and some blog by a gay girl in Damascus. Oh he also would cite some Syrain govt statistics helpfully provided by the good folks over at The Syrian Observatory For Human Rights. Jesus, dude! Can't you extrapolate based on existing data? Look at Cancel Culture. It's going on right now. Look at its proponents, how they think, how they accuse without reasonable basis, build up heads of de-humanizing steam; you can practically see their saliva. Then project forward in time bearing in mind a situation where they hold the power of life and death over normal people. Gulags are the natural conclusion when people who can't meme gain power and get a taste of blood. The only reason you would think that Russian Gulags were special exceptions in the psychopathic equation is that you've been successfully manipulated, or have some of that saliva pooling under your own tongue.
Woodsman · 2021-02-22T19:59:03Z
hkoehli I think the gulags were prisons in an underdeveloped country where the climate was inescapably harsh. When you use the English word for it, and realize that the vast majority of gulag inmates were criminals who served their sentences and returned to society, then it sort of takes the wind out of it. Sure there were political prisoners, as there are anywhere and everywhere. I wonder if you would sit down on your show and wax indignant about Black Panthers who were framed up by the FBI and sentenced to rot in prison for life here in America, or about Gitmo inmates imprisoned now for over a decade in an illegal in every sense of the word black site that itself is illegally occupying the communist country of Cuba. Probably not. You sympathize with the fascist version of events, even if you find that unpalatable. In 30 years, your ideological protege will be pontificating on how evil (the dead and gone) Assad was for gassing his own people, and he would know it was true because he will have read a book written by White Helmets, moving memoirs from a US Ambassador and some blog by a gay girl in Damascus. Oh he also would cite some Syrain govt statistics helpfully provided by the good folks over at The Syrian Observatory For Human Rights. Jesus, dude! Can't you extrapolate based on existing data? Look at Cancel Culture. It's going on right now. Look at its proponents, how they think, how they accuse without reasonable basis, build up heads of de-humanizing steam; you can practically see their saliva. Then project forward in time bearing in mind a situation where they hold the power of life and death over normal people. Gulags are the natural conclusion when people who can't meme gain power and get a taste of blood. The only reason you would think that Russian Gulags were special exceptions in the psychopathic equation is that you've been successfully manipulated, or have some of that saliva pooling under your own tongue.
Niall · 2021-02-22T20:20:55Z bj0311 Astute comment.
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T07:40:16Z hkoehli more lies---fully refuted bt H Bruce Franklin, 'The Essential Stalin'
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T07:40:16Z
hkoehli more lies---fully refuted bt H Bruce Franklin, 'The Essential Stalin'
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T16:16:18Z smertzasmert The Essential Stalin: Major Theoretical Writings, 1905-52, i.e., Stalin's own writings, which includes an introduction by Franklin in which he doesn't even mention the number of executions during the late thirties. That one? Published around 20 years before the fall of the Soviet Union and the documents proving it being made available to researchers. That one? Conversive thinking never ceases to work wonders. "All of these trials, purges, and liquidations, which seemed so violent at the time and shocked the world, are now quite clearly a part of a vigorous and determined effort of the Stalin government to protect itself from not only revolution from within but from attack from without. They went to work thoroughly to clean up and clean out all treasonable elements within the country. All doubts were resolved in favor of the government." So noble, comrade. "It is true that socialism in the Soviet Union has been reversed. But Stalin must be held primarily responsible not for its failure to achieve communism but rather for its getting as far along the road as it did. It went much further than the "left" and the right Opposition, the capitalists, and almost everybody in the world thought possible. It went far enough to pass the baton to a fresher runner, the workers and peasants of China, who, studying and emulating Stalin, have already gone even further, as we are beginning to see." :lol:
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T16:16:18Z
smertzasmert The Essential Stalin: Major Theoretical Writings, 1905-52, i.e., Stalin's own writings, which includes an introduction by Franklin in which he doesn't even mention the number of executions during the late thirties. That one? Published around 20 years before the fall of the Soviet Union and the documents proving it being made available to researchers. That one? Conversive thinking never ceases to work wonders. "All of these trials, purges, and liquidations, which seemed so violent at the time and shocked the world, are now quite clearly a part of a vigorous and determined effort of the Stalin government to protect itself from not only revolution from within but from attack from without. They went to work thoroughly to clean up and clean out all treasonable elements within the country. All doubts were resolved in favor of the government." So noble, comrade. "It is true that socialism in the Soviet Union has been reversed. But Stalin must be held primarily responsible not for its failure to achieve communism but rather for its getting as far along the road as it did. It went much further than the "left" and the right Opposition, the capitalists, and almost everybody in the world thought possible. It went far enough to pass the baton to a fresher runner, the workers and peasants of China, who, studying and emulating Stalin, have already gone even further, as we are beginning to see." :lol:
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-23T16:27:46Z hkoehli Thank you for finding those points. I know that my short temper would have suffered trying to get there. Thanks again. RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-23T16:27:46Z
hkoehli Thank you for finding those points. I know that my short temper would have suffered trying to get there. Thanks again. RC
bj0311 · 2021-02-23T23:23:11Z adipocere Actually, that was a typo which I couldn't edit--it was her father and he was sent to the gulag rather than the front for the unauthorized taking of two liters of fuel so his family could cook. You can't compare that to some dirtbag criminal. And by the way, you are not required to love your brother if your brother is a so and so--one of the few things Any Rand said that I agree with. I appreciated the ad hominem comeback, very adult of you.
adipocere Actually, that was a typo which I couldn't edit--it was her father and he was sent to the gulag rather than the front for the unauthorized taking of two liters of fuel so his family could cook. You can't compare that to some dirtbag criminal. And by the way, you are not required to love your brother if your brother is a so and so--one of the few things Any Rand said that I agree with. I appreciated the ad hominem comeback, very adult of you.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T04:37:13Z Rowan Cocoan My pleasure. Though I have to admit reading that communists and their twisted defenders makes me a bit sick to the stomach.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T04:37:13Z
Rowan Cocoan My pleasure. Though I have to admit reading that communists and their twisted defenders makes me a bit sick to the stomach.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T04:42:46Z bj0311 There's something about defending communism and losing one's conscience that seem to go hand in hand. Lobaczewski was right - both the philosophy and the movement in general (Wokeism is just Leninism 4.0) are pathological in nature. It turns its supporters into half-wits and callous ideologues - because they have to deny so much reality in order to maintain the illusion and the shallow dream that it will work, eventually.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T04:42:46Z
bj0311 There's something about defending communism and losing one's conscience that seem to go hand in hand. Lobaczewski was right - both the philosophy and the movement in general (Wokeism is just Leninism 4.0) are pathological in nature. It turns its supporters into half-wits and callous ideologues - because they have to deny so much reality in order to maintain the illusion and the shallow dream that it will work, eventually.
smertzasmert · 2021-02-27T20:31:27Z hkoehli more immaturity---malenkiya chuzhoi clearly you did not read Franklin's book Socialism has not been reversed in Russia-----Putin has renationalized much of industry/utilities There is a reason why we by more than half admire Stalin in Russia
smertzasmert · 2021-02-27T20:31:27Z
hkoehli more immaturity---malenkiya chuzhoi clearly you did not read Franklin's book Socialism has not been reversed in Russia-----Putin has renationalized much of industry/utilities There is a reason why we by more than half admire Stalin in Russia
smertzasmert · 2021-02-27T20:33:09Z hkoehli you amuse like all fascists
smertzasmert · 2021-02-27T20:33:09Z
hkoehli you amuse like all fascists
hkoehli · 2021-02-27T21:10:22Z hkoehli more immaturity---malenkiya chuzhoi clearly you did not read Franklin's book Nope, I did not. The introduction was enough for me to nearly lose my lunch. But please, share the parts you found most enlightening. Socialism has not been reversed in Russia-----Putin has renationalized much of industry/utilities What does this have to do with the pathocratic Soviets? You really think the two are comparable? There is a reason why we by more than half admire Stalin in Russia Yeah, and it's not flattering. Sad.
hkoehli · 2021-02-27T21:10:22Z
hkoehli more immaturity---malenkiya chuzhoi clearly you did not read Franklin's book Nope, I did not. The introduction was enough for me to nearly lose my lunch. But please, share the parts you found most enlightening. Socialism has not been reversed in Russia-----Putin has renationalized much of industry/utilities What does this have to do with the pathocratic Soviets? You really think the two are comparable? There is a reason why we by more than half admire Stalin in Russia Yeah, and it's not flattering. Sad.
hkoehli more immaturity---malenkiya chuzhoi clearly you did not read Franklin's book
Socialism has not been reversed in Russia-----Putin has renationalized much of industry/utilities
There is a reason why we by more than half admire Stalin in Russia
hkoehli · 2021-02-27T21:11:05Z hkoehli you amuse like all fascists Grow up.
hkoehli · 2021-02-27T21:11:05Z
hkoehli you amuse like all fascists Grow up.
smertzasmert · 2021-02-28T02:36:47Z bj0311 Timothy Snyder has been entirely disgraced---a fascist apologist
smertzasmert · 2021-02-28T02:36:47Z
bj0311 Timothy Snyder has been entirely disgraced---a fascist apologist
smertzasmert · 2021-02-28T02:38:24Z hkoehli stop projecting--
smertzasmert · 2021-02-28T02:38:24Z
hkoehli · 2021-02-28T04:48:21Z hkoehli stop projecting-- You're not even a clever troll. Just a sad communist apologist.
hkoehli · 2021-02-28T04:48:21Z
hkoehli stop projecting-- You're not even a clever troll. Just a sad communist apologist.
smertzasmert · 2021-03-02T01:06:53Z adipocere well stated....the holdomer is exaggerated. I have relatives and in-laws that lived in ukraine during this era--not one died of starvation
smertzasmert · 2021-03-02T01:06:53Z
adipocere well stated....the holdomer is exaggerated. I have relatives and in-laws that lived in ukraine during this era--not one died of starvation
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:26:51Z hkoehli you are easily triggered--like all fragile children you have one default setting---bullying, name calling tiresome
smertzasmert · 2021-03-05T20:26:51Z
hkoehli you are easily triggered--like all fragile children you have one default setting---bullying, name calling tiresome
hkoehli · 2021-03-05T20:45:38Z hkoehli you are easily triggered--like all fragile children you have one default setting---bullying, name calling Good description of a Bolshevik. BTW, I'm not triggered. I find you quite fascinating and amusing. tiresome Have you been reading Marx?
hkoehli · 2021-03-05T20:45:38Z
hkoehli you are easily triggered--like all fragile children you have one default setting---bullying, name calling Good description of a Bolshevik. BTW, I'm not triggered. I find you quite fascinating and amusing. tiresome Have you been reading Marx?
hkoehli you are easily triggered--like all fragile children you have one default setting---bullying, name calling
smertzasmert · 2021-03-06T00:01:30Z hkoehli more ignorance---Russia is socialist "Putin's great innovation is that he did not like the power and wealth of the oligarchs..nor the patrimonial relations created during the Yeltsin regime...he reduced their wealth by half and redistributed it to the Russian people". Ivan Szelyeni (New left Review: 2015)
smertzasmert · 2021-03-06T00:01:30Z
hkoehli more ignorance---Russia is socialist "Putin's great innovation is that he did not like the power and wealth of the oligarchs..nor the patrimonial relations created during the Yeltsin regime...he reduced their wealth by half and redistributed it to the Russian people". Ivan Szelyeni (New left Review: 2015)
smertzasmert · 2021-03-06T00:05:29Z hkoehli childish north amerikans are easily amused "no people are more entertained and less informed than amerikans....nowhere in a north American education are the concepts of truth and falsity ever addressed amerikans do not converse as Tocqueville wrote, amerikans entertain each other. amerikans do not exchange ideas; they exchange images. the problem with amerikans is not Orwellian: it is huxleyan. amerikans love their oppression". Neil Postman LOL
smertzasmert · 2021-03-06T00:05:29Z
hkoehli childish north amerikans are easily amused "no people are more entertained and less informed than amerikans....nowhere in a north American education are the concepts of truth and falsity ever addressed amerikans do not converse as Tocqueville wrote, amerikans entertain each other. amerikans do not exchange ideas; they exchange images. the problem with amerikans is not Orwellian: it is huxleyan. amerikans love their oppression". Neil Postman LOL
Xerox · 2021-02-22T22:44:36Z Episode 10. Who Organised the Famine in the USSR in 1932-1933? Written by Nikolay STARIKOV on 17/12/2012 The theory of the Holodomor is reactivated in the media every time Ukraine is about to take a step back to Russia. Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a severe famine throughout the USSR that claimed an unprecedented number of lives (up to 7 million victims, according to some debatable estimates). Paradoxically the famine mostly affected fertile areas in the North Caucasus, the Volga basin, the South Urals, Western Siberia, Ukraine, Belorussia and Kazakhstan. During the last decade several Western historians were recruited to elaborate on the theory that the famine tragedy was a deliberate act of genocide against Ukrainians carried out by Stalin’s government. Let’s consider the historical facts and try to get closer to the truth regarding the issue of the sources and circumstances of that horrible famine in the USSR [ Link ]
Episode 10. Who Organised the Famine in the USSR in 1932-1933? Written by Nikolay STARIKOV on 17/12/2012 The theory of the Holodomor is reactivated in the media every time Ukraine is about to take a step back to Russia. Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a severe famine throughout the USSR that claimed an unprecedented number of lives (up to 7 million victims, according to some debatable estimates). Paradoxically the famine mostly affected fertile areas in the North Caucasus, the Volga basin, the South Urals, Western Siberia, Ukraine, Belorussia and Kazakhstan. During the last decade several Western historians were recruited to elaborate on the theory that the famine tragedy was a deliberate act of genocide against Ukrainians carried out by Stalin’s government. Let’s consider the historical facts and try to get closer to the truth regarding the issue of the sources and circumstances of that horrible famine in the USSR [ Link ]
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T00:51:22Z Xerox Noise. Watch the show and read the comments. Starikov is wrong.
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T00:51:22Z
Xerox Noise. Watch the show and read the comments. Starikov is wrong.
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T07:42:06Z hkoehli no---you are! "amerikans live in a thicket of illusions...."Daniel Boorstin you are farcical
smertzasmert · 2021-02-23T07:42:06Z
hkoehli no---you are! "amerikans live in a thicket of illusions...."Daniel Boorstin you are farcical
codis · 2021-02-23T08:17:55Z Xerox As a matter of fact, the grains robbed from Ukrainian farmers were sold on the global market. For real money.
Xerox As a matter of fact, the grains robbed from Ukrainian farmers were sold on the global market. For real money.
codis · 2021-02-23T12:21:42Z Xerox Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a severe famine throughout the USSR that claimed an unprecedented number of lives (up to 7 million victims, according to some debatable estimates). And I say, this is pure communist propaganda. As even Wikipedia admits, the early 1930s were the time the bolsheviks enforced the "collectivization". Which meant mostly, killing any peasant who refused, especially in the Ukraine. A self-inflicted, man-made problem: [ Link ] In the early 1930s, over 91% of agricultural land became collectivized as rural households entered collective farms with their land, livestock, and other assets. The collectivization era saw several famines, many due to the shortage of modern technology in USSR at the time, but critics have also cited deliberate action on the government's part.[3] The death toll cited by experts has ranged from 7 million to 14 million.[4] As said, I view this white-washing of Stalin era crimes with great suspicion.
Xerox Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a severe famine throughout the USSR that claimed an unprecedented number of lives (up to 7 million victims, according to some debatable estimates). And I say, this is pure communist propaganda. As even Wikipedia admits, the early 1930s were the time the bolsheviks enforced the "collectivization". Which meant mostly, killing any peasant who refused, especially in the Ukraine. A self-inflicted, man-made problem: [ Link ] In the early 1930s, over 91% of agricultural land became collectivized as rural households entered collective farms with their land, livestock, and other assets. The collectivization era saw several famines, many due to the shortage of modern technology in USSR at the time, but critics have also cited deliberate action on the government's part.[3] The death toll cited by experts has ranged from 7 million to 14 million.[4] As said, I view this white-washing of Stalin era crimes with great suspicion.
Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a severe famine throughout the USSR that claimed an unprecedented number of lives (up to 7 million victims, according to some debatable estimates).
In the early 1930s, over 91% of agricultural land became collectivized as rural households entered collective farms with their land, livestock, and other assets. The collectivization era saw several famines, many due to the shortage of modern technology in USSR at the time, but critics have also cited deliberate action on the government's part.[3] The death toll cited by experts has ranged from 7 million to 14 million.[4]
smertzasmert · 2021-03-06T00:07:33Z codis not surprising a nazi would reference wikipedia---funded by CIA, US corporations and edited by 180 employees
smertzasmert · 2021-03-06T00:07:33Z
codis not surprising a nazi would reference wikipedia---funded by CIA, US corporations and edited by 180 employees
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-06T00:36:52Z smertzasmert I swear to God, every time that I think that you're perhaps acquiring a bit of wisdom, you prove me wrong. You at least need to learn to play to your audience, boy. I say, I say. [ Link ] (This is known as self-deprecatory humor.) RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-03-06T00:36:52Z
smertzasmert I swear to God, every time that I think that you're perhaps acquiring a bit of wisdom, you prove me wrong. You at least need to learn to play to your audience, boy. I say, I say. [ Link ] (This is known as self-deprecatory humor.) RC
Xerox · 2021-02-22T22:47:57Z In October 2017 Stephen Kotkin, professor of history at Princeton University, published "Stalin. Waiting for Hitler, 1929 – 1941." In it, Kotkin accuses Soviet leader Joseph Stalin of dozens of terrible crimes and atrocities.The appearance of Kotkin’s scholarship is daunting: 909 pages of text, more than 5200 footnotes, and 47 pages of bibliography in tiny, triple-column type. But Grover Furr has carefully and methodically studied every one of the hundreds of allegations of atrocity, crime, and misdeeds of any kind that Kotkin attributes to Stalin and his closest advisers. Furr has checked every reference, every article and book, that Kotkin cites as evidence. The result: Furr has found that every single "crime" Kotkin alleges is false - a fabrication. Not a single accusation holds up. On the evidence, Stalin committed NO crime, no atrocities – for if he had, Kotkin would surely have uncovered at least one. Furr’s exhaustive research shows that Soviet history of the 1930s, has been falsified. Furr’s book is a model of meticulous examination of evidence and careful, objective analysis and deduction. "Stalin. Waiting For … The Truth" exposes the lies and falsehoods behind Soviet history of the 1930s with the same meticulous attention to detail as his previous works: "Khrushchev Lied" (2011), "The Murder of Sergei Kirov" (2013), "Blood Lies" (2014), "Trotsky’s ‘Amalgams’" (2015), "Yezhov vs. Stalin" (2016), "Leon Trotsky’s Collaboration with Germany and Japan" (2017), and "The Mystery of the Katyn Massacre; The Evidence, The Solution" (2018).
In October 2017 Stephen Kotkin, professor of history at Princeton University, published "Stalin. Waiting for Hitler, 1929 – 1941." In it, Kotkin accuses Soviet leader Joseph Stalin of dozens of terrible crimes and atrocities.The appearance of Kotkin’s scholarship is daunting: 909 pages of text, more than 5200 footnotes, and 47 pages of bibliography in tiny, triple-column type. But Grover Furr has carefully and methodically studied every one of the hundreds of allegations of atrocity, crime, and misdeeds of any kind that Kotkin attributes to Stalin and his closest advisers. Furr has checked every reference, every article and book, that Kotkin cites as evidence. The result: Furr has found that every single "crime" Kotkin alleges is false - a fabrication. Not a single accusation holds up. On the evidence, Stalin committed NO crime, no atrocities – for if he had, Kotkin would surely have uncovered at least one. Furr’s exhaustive research shows that Soviet history of the 1930s, has been falsified. Furr’s book is a model of meticulous examination of evidence and careful, objective analysis and deduction. "Stalin. Waiting For … The Truth" exposes the lies and falsehoods behind Soviet history of the 1930s with the same meticulous attention to detail as his previous works: "Khrushchev Lied" (2011), "The Murder of Sergei Kirov" (2013), "Blood Lies" (2014), "Trotsky’s ‘Amalgams’" (2015), "Yezhov vs. Stalin" (2016), "Leon Trotsky’s Collaboration with Germany and Japan" (2017), and "The Mystery of the Katyn Massacre; The Evidence, The Solution" (2018).
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T00:52:24Z Xerox Already addressed Grover "Worst Thing About Stalin Was That He Was So Great" Furr in the show.
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T00:52:24Z
Xerox Already addressed Grover "Worst Thing About Stalin Was That He Was So Great" Furr in the show.
Xerox · 2021-02-22T22:53:58Z Compare Stalin with other genocidal maniacs from Britain: Britain robbed India of $45 trillion & Thence 1.8 billion Indians died from deprivation [ Link ] Davis characterizes the Indian famines which took place under colonial rule as a "genocide". [ Link ]
Compare Stalin with other genocidal maniacs from Britain: Britain robbed India of $45 trillion & Thence 1.8 billion Indians died from deprivation [ Link ] Davis characterizes the Indian famines which took place under colonial rule as a "genocide". [ Link ]
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T00:52:58Z Xerox Yes, the Brits were also bad, just like the Soviets.
hkoehli · 2021-02-23T00:52:58Z
Xerox Yes, the Brits were also bad, just like the Soviets.
DeliciousTears · 2021-02-23T12:42:36Z Oh now gentlemen, let's not bicker and argue about who killed who..... [ Link ]
DeliciousTears · 2021-02-23T12:42:36Z
Oh now gentlemen, let's not bicker and argue about who killed who..... [ Link ]
codis · 2021-02-23T13:40:10Z DeliciousTears The usual "Hitler" red herring. Bring something else up, claiming it's much worse, to distract from the original topic.
DeliciousTears The usual "Hitler" red herring. Bring something else up, claiming it's much worse, to distract from the original topic.
Mia Mai · 2021-02-24T03:42:09Z This one sent me on a research frenzy, a very enlightening one at that. How can a race of people be so evolved, so sophisticated...yet so stupid? NO I'm not talking about the Amarikans. That Mao Zedong, he was something else. But I have to say, when he ordered all the sparrows be culled because they was eating his precious grain, that was the stupidest thing ever. 1love ppl
Mia Mai · 2021-02-24T03:42:09Z
This one sent me on a research frenzy, a very enlightening one at that. How can a race of people be so evolved, so sophisticated...yet so stupid? NO I'm not talking about the Amarikans. That Mao Zedong, he was something else. But I have to say, when he ordered all the sparrows be culled because they was eating his precious grain, that was the stupidest thing ever. 1love ppl
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T15:17:29Z Mia Mai I'm convinced Mao may have been the stupidest man who ever lived. It was one batshit crazy thing after another with that idiot. Textbook pathological egotism.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T15:17:29Z
Mia Mai I'm convinced Mao may have been the stupidest man who ever lived. It was one batshit crazy thing after another with that idiot. Textbook pathological egotism.
codis · 2021-02-24T15:40:49Z hkoehli I am not convinced. It was one batshit crazy thing after another with that idiot. He was a Yale graduate (the Chinese branch), ... Textbook pathological egotism. ...and followed the Marxist manifest.
hkoehli I am not convinced. It was one batshit crazy thing after another with that idiot. He was a Yale graduate (the Chinese branch), ... Textbook pathological egotism. ...and followed the Marxist manifest.
It was one batshit crazy thing after another with that idiot.
Textbook pathological egotism.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T16:03:36Z codis A special kind of stupid.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T16:03:36Z
codis A special kind of stupid.
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-24T16:04:39Z hkoehli A certain kind of fool... [ Link ] RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-24T16:04:39Z
hkoehli A certain kind of fool... [ Link ] RC
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T16:06:29Z Rowan Cocoan Exactly.
hkoehli · 2021-02-24T16:06:29Z
parzival · 2021-02-24T09:36:00Z Enough nostalgia of the past: Let's look at Zio throughout the ages to today: "The Jewish State" What It Really Means [ Link ]
parzival · 2021-02-24T09:36:00Z
Enough nostalgia of the past: Let's look at Zio throughout the ages to today: "The Jewish State" What It Really Means [ Link ]
andy · 2021-02-24T14:36:46Z Here is a truth in the 1930's western governments would not except money ,gold for payments for goods . Grain only was excepted for Russia to buy goods from the west . Crops were sold then crops failed no food reserve people starved .Not planned . At the same time those crops feed millions of starving on the breadlines of America and England FACT
Here is a truth in the 1930's western governments would not except money ,gold for payments for goods . Grain only was excepted for Russia to buy goods from the west . Crops were sold then crops failed no food reserve people starved .Not planned . At the same time those crops feed millions of starving on the breadlines of America and England FACT
codis · 2021-02-24T14:46:06Z andy Here is a truth in the 1930's western governments would not except money , gold for payments for goods . Until you show me proof for that, I view it as deliberate misinformation. A few years ago, that Western governments had been eager to extract every last ounce of gold from Germany.
andy Here is a truth in the 1930's western governments would not except money , gold for payments for goods . Until you show me proof for that, I view it as deliberate misinformation. A few years ago, that Western governments had been eager to extract every last ounce of gold from Germany.
Here is a truth in the 1930's western governments would not except money , gold for payments for goods .
andy · 2021-02-24T22:39:54Z codis [ Link ] Question what did this bill end ..get to work
codis [ Link ] Question what did this bill end ..get to work
Lemuel Gulliver · 2021-02-25T06:39:18Z Harrison and Niall, I have not had time to read all the comments here, but it seems nobody remembers this article on SOTT which I have had bookmarked for 10 years: Holodomor, Ukranian genocide under Stalin, orchestrated by the West The theory of the Holodomor is reactivated in the media every time Ukraine is about to take a step back to Russia. Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a... Then, it was much the same as the sanctions of today, attempting to punish Russia for its success. In 1933, as today, Russia was prevented from paying for its import needs in gold, of which it had an abundance, and the West had a shortage, but was only allowed to pay in grain. Hence, just like in the Irish famine of the 1850's, food was exported while the population starved. Russians also died of starvation at this time, not just Ukrainians. Incidentally, I had SIX videos on the Holodomor, and on the famine in Russia, bookmarked, and YouTube has taken every last one of them down. All gone. Of all my Holodomor bookmarks, only this one on SOTT still exists. (Imagine that.... Soviet censorship has now come to the West, the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, Land of Hope and Glory and all that. I am not optimistic about our future here in the West.) It strikes me that it is similar to the prohibition on investigation of the Holocaust, or the stealing of the US election in 2020, or the COVID "Pandemic" - the only reason I can imagine for the suppression of discussion is not that powerful people want to suppress lies, but that they want to suppress the truth. I hope SOTT never succumbs to financial or other enticements and becomes another tool of the PTB.... All the truth tellers are disappearing, one by one. Very depressing.
Lemuel Gulliver · 2021-02-25T06:39:18Z
Harrison and Niall, I have not had time to read all the comments here, but it seems nobody remembers this article on SOTT which I have had bookmarked for 10 years: Holodomor, Ukranian genocide under Stalin, orchestrated by the West The theory of the Holodomor is reactivated in the media every time Ukraine is about to take a step back to Russia. Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a... Then, it was much the same as the sanctions of today, attempting to punish Russia for its success. In 1933, as today, Russia was prevented from paying for its import needs in gold, of which it had an abundance, and the West had a shortage, but was only allowed to pay in grain. Hence, just like in the Irish famine of the 1850's, food was exported while the population starved. Russians also died of starvation at this time, not just Ukrainians. Incidentally, I had SIX videos on the Holodomor, and on the famine in Russia, bookmarked, and YouTube has taken every last one of them down. All gone. Of all my Holodomor bookmarks, only this one on SOTT still exists. (Imagine that.... Soviet censorship has now come to the West, the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, Land of Hope and Glory and all that. I am not optimistic about our future here in the West.) It strikes me that it is similar to the prohibition on investigation of the Holocaust, or the stealing of the US election in 2020, or the COVID "Pandemic" - the only reason I can imagine for the suppression of discussion is not that powerful people want to suppress lies, but that they want to suppress the truth. I hope SOTT never succumbs to financial or other enticements and becomes another tool of the PTB.... All the truth tellers are disappearing, one by one. Very depressing.
Holodomor, Ukranian genocide under Stalin, orchestrated by the West The theory of the Holodomor is reactivated in the media every time Ukraine is about to take a step back to Russia. Just to remind those who are not aware of the tragedy, in 1932-1933 there was a...
parzival · 2021-02-25T14:40:34Z Lemuel Gulliver As is always the case, we have become our enemies...
parzival · 2021-02-25T14:40:34Z
Lemuel Gulliver As is always the case, we have become our enemies...
hkoehli · 2021-02-25T17:02:12Z Lemuel Gulliver I remember, I just think Starikov is biased and overstates his case. Even if I accept all his major points, the moral of his story is: "The Brits made us do it! Total industrialization at any cost!" No mention of forced collectivization and confiscation of all farm products, Stalin's total obstinacy during the years in question, the arrest, torture and exile of "criminal" peasants, that the UK had a trade deficit with USSR in 1932 and prior years, or the fact that reinstating the legality of private farm plots in 1933 had any effect, and those plots supported the regions through another famine 10+ years later.
hkoehli · 2021-02-25T17:02:12Z
Lemuel Gulliver I remember, I just think Starikov is biased and overstates his case. Even if I accept all his major points, the moral of his story is: "The Brits made us do it! Total industrialization at any cost!" No mention of forced collectivization and confiscation of all farm products, Stalin's total obstinacy during the years in question, the arrest, torture and exile of "criminal" peasants, that the UK had a trade deficit with USSR in 1932 and prior years, or the fact that reinstating the legality of private farm plots in 1933 had any effect, and those plots supported the regions through another famine 10+ years later.
codis · 2021-02-25T17:12:18Z hkoehli Even if I accept all his major points, the moral of his story is: "The Brits made us do it! Total industrialization at any cost!" No mention of forced collectivization and confiscation of all farm products, Stalin's total obstinacy during the years in question, the arrest, torture and exile of "criminal" peasants, ... I fully agree. And need to add - the argument of the Western refusal of gold payment disproves the claim of bad weather or crop failure made earlier. This is no excuse for robbing from other people, and killing them.
hkoehli Even if I accept all his major points, the moral of his story is: "The Brits made us do it! Total industrialization at any cost!" No mention of forced collectivization and confiscation of all farm products, Stalin's total obstinacy during the years in question, the arrest, torture and exile of "criminal" peasants, ... I fully agree. And need to add - the argument of the Western refusal of gold payment disproves the claim of bad weather or crop failure made earlier. This is no excuse for robbing from other people, and killing them.
Even if I accept all his major points, the moral of his story is: "The Brits made us do it! Total industrialization at any cost!" No mention of forced collectivization and confiscation of all farm products, Stalin's total obstinacy during the years in question, the arrest, torture and exile of "criminal" peasants, ...
hkoehli · 2021-02-25T17:57:17Z Lemuel Gulliver Some good points made in the following discussions: [ Link ] [ Link ] It's highly debatable whether the gold embargo was a driving factor. As one commenter put it, despite the partial trade embargo, the USSR had plenty of access to international markets. Another points out that Russia's gold reserves weren't in great shape at the time, and regardless, Stalin was extremely stingy about paying anyone with gold, before, during, or after the famine.
hkoehli · 2021-02-25T17:57:17Z
Lemuel Gulliver Some good points made in the following discussions: [ Link ] [ Link ] It's highly debatable whether the gold embargo was a driving factor. As one commenter put it, despite the partial trade embargo, the USSR had plenty of access to international markets. Another points out that Russia's gold reserves weren't in great shape at the time, and regardless, Stalin was extremely stingy about paying anyone with gold, before, during, or after the famine.
hkoehli · 2021-02-25T18:01:45Z This is no excuse for robbing from other people, and killing them. Exactly. For me, the clue that communism is an absolutely psychopathic ideology is the degree to which its adherents and defenders excuse the total brutalization of people in its name. The great march of history necessitates hard sacrifices (other people, not 'us', of course). It's quite amazing how effective it is - every single time.
hkoehli · 2021-02-25T18:01:45Z
This is no excuse for robbing from other people, and killing them. Exactly. For me, the clue that communism is an absolutely psychopathic ideology is the degree to which its adherents and defenders excuse the total brutalization of people in its name. The great march of history necessitates hard sacrifices (other people, not 'us', of course). It's quite amazing how effective it is - every single time.
This is no excuse for robbing from other people, and killing them.
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-26T09:35:57Z hkoehli (Disclaimer: I didn't used to curse like this here up until around a year? ago.) Correction: It's quite amazing how effective it is - every single fucking time. RC
Rowan Cocoan · 2021-02-26T09:35:57Z
hkoehli (Disclaimer: I didn't used to curse like this here up until around a year? ago.) Correction: It's quite amazing how effective it is - every single fucking time. RC
It's quite amazing how effective it is - every single fucking time.
parzival · 2021-02-26T10:04:56Z hkoehli Vernadsky and the Directionality of Progress (Towards a Science of Humane Development) [ Link ]
parzival · 2021-02-26T10:04:56Z
hkoehli Vernadsky and the Directionality of Progress (Towards a Science of Humane Development) [ Link ]
parzival · 2021-02-26T11:52:18Z hkoehli Sam Vernadsky Q and A [ Link ]
parzival · 2021-02-26T11:52:18Z
hkoehli Sam Vernadsky Q and A [ Link ]
Lemuel Gulliver · 2021-02-26T23:02:03Z hkoehli Thanks for the replies. (BTW, the link you provided does not work - Error 404 - Page Not Found.) It is a very important subject you and the team picked to discuss, because it is at the root of the Ukrainain-Russian hostility of today, which is important, because if the West sticks its nose in, which it ignorantly seems bent on doing, it could lead to a nuclear war between the West and Russia. It is almost as significant an event as the Holocaust of the Jews, which, like the Holodomor, has had immeasurable consequences 75 years later. One must be thankful that after the fall of Communism, Ukraine surrendered all its nuclear weapons. As you observe, Communism has been promoted by some irrational and utterly self-assured psychopaths, at immense human cost - Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao. I once observed in conversation at work that the Communist dictators caused vastly more suffering and cost many times more human lives than the fascist ones, (not that either type is commendable,) - Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Marcos, Mobutu. A day later I was reprimanded by my supervisor for expressing antisemitism. I thought to myself, silently: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much." The reason Communism is pernicious and produces evil is that it will not acknowledge human nature, which is both good and evil, but insists that it must be completely good, and that proper altruistic behavior can be forced upon humanity at the point of a gun, (or a gallows, or any of a range of creative machinery of torture.) What happens is that evil rises to control the system, and exempts itself from its own laws that it imposes on everyone else. Nobody lives in more luxury and excess than the rulers of Communist states, and their lackeys. It reminds me of Etienne de la Boetie, in his " Discourse on Volutary Servitude ," which can be summed up in one sentence: "Everybody wants a slice of the pie." Human nature will not be denied. Any system that denies truth is doomed to fail. It's like someone jumping off the hundredth floor, and a hundred times as they pass each floor, saying, "Look! I'm still flying!" Failure happens every time that lies are held up as truth. And it seems to be the system that America has lived under for many decades if not centuries. Now it is coming to a head, because denial of truth is like a pressure cooker - without a vent, it will inevitably explode. The suppression of opinion and free speech that we see today has shut the vent, and can only result in destruction. We have become that (Communism) which we hated.
Lemuel Gulliver · 2021-02-26T23:02:03Z
hkoehli Thanks for the replies. (BTW, the link you provided does not work - Error 404 - Page Not Found.) It is a very important subject you and the team picked to discuss, because it is at the root of the Ukrainain-Russian hostility of today, which is important, because if the West sticks its nose in, which it ignorantly seems bent on doing, it could lead to a nuclear war between the West and Russia. It is almost as significant an event as the Holocaust of the Jews, which, like the Holodomor, has had immeasurable consequences 75 years later. One must be thankful that after the fall of Communism, Ukraine surrendered all its nuclear weapons. As you observe, Communism has been promoted by some irrational and utterly self-assured psychopaths, at immense human cost - Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao. I once observed in conversation at work that the Communist dictators caused vastly more suffering and cost many times more human lives than the fascist ones, (not that either type is commendable,) - Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Marcos, Mobutu. A day later I was reprimanded by my supervisor for expressing antisemitism. I thought to myself, silently: "Methinks the lady doth protest too much." The reason Communism is pernicious and produces evil is that it will not acknowledge human nature, which is both good and evil, but insists that it must be completely good, and that proper altruistic behavior can be forced upon humanity at the point of a gun, (or a gallows, or any of a range of creative machinery of torture.) What happens is that evil rises to control the system, and exempts itself from its own laws that it imposes on everyone else. Nobody lives in more luxury and excess than the rulers of Communist states, and their lackeys. It reminds me of Etienne de la Boetie, in his " Discourse on Volutary Servitude ," which can be summed up in one sentence: "Everybody wants a slice of the pie." Human nature will not be denied. Any system tha