MindMatters: The Matter with Things: Truth, Science, and Life

MindMatters: The Matter with Things: Truth, Science, and Life

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T03:34:45Z A+ A+ A+ A+ What caused the first out-take? The hard Koch? "Objectivity involves the habit of mind and spirit, not the following of external procedures or rules; put another way, the objectivity lies not in propositions but in a disciplined disposition." - McGilchrist "Truth and SIGNS(science)!" - Luc You all at 2x speed is almost too much fluency! Almost. Consciousness implied by the discernment shown even by "chemical" affinities? Also the outboard motor comparison I'd never heard before, it's a good one, good point in favor of intelligent design. legos vs. logos.. lol. Fine job -- very interesting topics, you've pique my interest in McGilchrist, and Whitehead... must be A.N. Whitehead. 🥼 I think Chemistry is King... but i am biased. Look at how Nuclear shell models built out Pythagorean solids or Hamiltonian graphs/cycles(opinion) **no substack links given "below" that I can see

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T03:34:45Z

A+ A+ A+ A+ What caused the first out-take? The hard Koch? "Objectivity involves the habit of mind and spirit, not the following of external procedures or rules; put another way, the objectivity lies not in propositions but in a disciplined disposition." - McGilchrist "Truth and SIGNS(science)!" - Luc You all at 2x speed is almost too much fluency! Almost. Consciousness implied by the discernment shown even by "chemical" affinities? Also the outboard motor comparison I'd never heard before, it's a good one, good point in favor of intelligent design. legos vs. logos.. lol. Fine job -- very interesting topics, you've pique my interest in McGilchrist, and Whitehead... must be A.N. Whitehead. 🥼 I think Chemistry is King... but i am biased. Look at how Nuclear shell models built out Pythagorean solids or Hamiltonian graphs/cycles(opinion) **no substack links given "below" that I can see

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T15:42:30Z azigzagidiot Thank you. I appreciate Peter Ouspensky looking out from your avatar. He was always trying to understand reality in his early works of Tertium Organum and A New Model of the Universe. He saw that consciousness was the way to understand reality. I should add he never wanted to be famous, and his wish was granted.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T15:42:30Z

azigzagidiot Thank you. I appreciate Peter Ouspensky looking out from your avatar. He was always trying to understand reality in his early works of Tertium Organum and A New Model of the Universe. He saw that consciousness was the way to understand reality. I should add he never wanted to be famous, and his wish was granted.

Nathan Carney · 2022-05-10T23:52:28Z azigzagidiot The excitement and enjoyment of the conversation was palpable. I only listened for 15 minutes as it was late and I was confused. Yes a key takeaway was/is a disciplined disposition. So this tells me that the left brain has to engage in direct, not complex necessarily, activity that fully engages the right brain accordingly to prolativities. And this is the proper engagement with uncertainty and information, opening one up to objective engagement with reality. Not trying to make a word salad, just got to read the books.

Nathan Carney · 2022-05-10T23:52:28Z

azigzagidiot The excitement and enjoyment of the conversation was palpable. I only listened for 15 minutes as it was late and I was confused. Yes a key takeaway was/is a disciplined disposition. So this tells me that the left brain has to engage in direct, not complex necessarily, activity that fully engages the right brain accordingly to prolativities. And this is the proper engagement with uncertainty and information, opening one up to objective engagement with reality. Not trying to make a word salad, just got to read the books.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-25T23:22:48Z Dwoods44 [!!!] He saw that consciousness was the way to understand reality. I should add he never wanted to be famous [during his lifetime ], and his wish was granted. You rock. Dog. Woof woof woof woof woof! Ow ow, Awoooooooooo... Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh Nathan Carney The excitement and enjoyment of the conversation was palpable. I only listened for 15 minutes as it was late and I was confused. Yes a key takeaway was/is a disciplined disposition. So this tells me that the left brain has to engage in direct, not complex necessarily, activity that fully engages the right brain accordingly to prolativities. And this is the proper engagement with uncertainty and information, opening one up to objective engagement with reality. Not trying to make a word salad, just got to read the books. I, uh... think this is fine formulation; food for thought? It sounds like "splitting attention" (which may have the counter-intuitive function of requiring [C|C] cross-hemisphere communication) between what you're actively doing, while monitor your state or your interaction, "up to objective engagement with reality", as you put it. However, what do you mean at the end with 'prolativities'? Proclivities of the mind?

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-25T23:22:48Z

Dwoods44 [!!!] He saw that consciousness was the way to understand reality. I should add he never wanted to be famous [during his lifetime ], and his wish was granted. You rock. Dog. Woof woof woof woof woof! Ow ow, Awoooooooooo... Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh Nathan Carney The excitement and enjoyment of the conversation was palpable. I only listened for 15 minutes as it was late and I was confused. Yes a key takeaway was/is a disciplined disposition. So this tells me that the left brain has to engage in direct, not complex necessarily, activity that fully engages the right brain accordingly to prolativities. And this is the proper engagement with uncertainty and information, opening one up to objective engagement with reality. Not trying to make a word salad, just got to read the books. I, uh... think this is fine formulation; food for thought? It sounds like "splitting attention" (which may have the counter-intuitive function of requiring [C|C] cross-hemisphere communication) between what you're actively doing, while monitor your state or your interaction, "up to objective engagement with reality", as you put it. However, what do you mean at the end with 'prolativities'? Proclivities of the mind?

Dwoods44 [!!!] He saw that consciousness was the way to understand reality. I should add he never wanted to be famous [during his lifetime ], and his wish was granted.

Nathan Carney The excitement and enjoyment of the conversation was palpable. I only listened for 15 minutes as it was late and I was confused. Yes a key takeaway was/is a disciplined disposition. So this tells me that the left brain has to engage in direct, not complex necessarily, activity that fully engages the right brain accordingly to prolativities. And this is the proper engagement with uncertainty and information, opening one up to objective engagement with reality. Not trying to make a word salad, just got to read the books.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-25T23:32:22Z azigzagidiot Thank you. I appreciate Peter Ouspensky looking out from your avatar. He was always trying to understand reality in his early works of Tertium Organum and A New Model of the Universe. He saw that consciousness was the way to understand reality. I should add he never wanted to be famous, and his wish was granted. Finally an answer to something I queried on before......good stuff indeed! Sometimes it is best to just be patient and then the answer will be revealed. [ Link ] Thanks Dwoods44 zig zagging in the wind tis all I'm doing and screaming out at the same time....why not a rebel yell!

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-25T23:32:22Z

azigzagidiot Thank you. I appreciate Peter Ouspensky looking out from your avatar. He was always trying to understand reality in his early works of Tertium Organum and A New Model of the Universe. He saw that consciousness was the way to understand reality. I should add he never wanted to be famous, and his wish was granted. Finally an answer to something I queried on before......good stuff indeed! Sometimes it is best to just be patient and then the answer will be revealed. [ Link ] Thanks Dwoods44 zig zagging in the wind tis all I'm doing and screaming out at the same time....why not a rebel yell!

Shangri · 2022-05-08T03:37:25Z a good conversation - one bound to eternal pain without ample offerings of escape - so, Thank-You -- .I believe..truth is, knowing that immaculate moment, at the edge of time - because it that then, that reveals the repeating movements dishonesty.

Shangri · 2022-05-08T03:37:25Z

a good conversation - one bound to eternal pain without ample offerings of escape - so, Thank-You -- .I believe..truth is, knowing that immaculate moment, at the edge of time - because it that then, that reveals the repeating movements dishonesty.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T03:51:45Z Shangri is that the melange talking? nice to see you here. 🌹

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T03:51:45Z

Shangri is that the melange talking? nice to see you here. 🌹

Shangri · 2022-05-08T12:07:03Z azigzagidiot zigzag - it more...the water of life - but anything that can topple imperial hegemony, displace their designs - is good by me.

Shangri · 2022-05-08T12:07:03Z

azigzagidiot zigzag - it more...the water of life - but anything that can topple imperial hegemony, displace their designs - is good by me.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-25T23:13:18Z Shangri a good conversation - one bound to eternal pain without ample offerings of escape - so, Thank-You -- .I believe..truth is, knowing that immaculate moment, at the edge of time - because it that then, that reveals the repeating movements dishonesty. ... handwiki.org: Boundary (topology): https://handwiki.org/wiki/Boundary%20(topology) periodic boundary conditions: [ Link ] helical boundary conditions: [ Link ]

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-25T23:13:18Z

Shangri a good conversation - one bound to eternal pain without ample offerings of escape - so, Thank-You -- .I believe..truth is, knowing that immaculate moment, at the edge of time - because it that then, that reveals the repeating movements dishonesty. ... handwiki.org: Boundary (topology): https://handwiki.org/wiki/Boundary%20(topology) periodic boundary conditions: [ Link ] helical boundary conditions: [ Link ]

Shangri a good conversation - one bound to eternal pain without ample offerings of escape - so, Thank-You -- .I believe..truth is, knowing that immaculate moment, at the edge of time - because it that then, that reveals the repeating movements dishonesty.

parzival · 2022-05-08T05:06:00Z Let's talk about chemistry... LOOK UP! THEY ARE SPRAYING US LIKE BUGS. (2020 DOCUMENTARY) [ Link ] * Geoengineering Watch Global Alert News, May 7, 2022, # 352 [ Link ] "Are the weather makers altering their script as flaws in their narratives come to light? A newly released science study has completely overturned the stated foundational premise for climate engineering / solar radiation management operations. Long tern weather "forecasts" for numerous regions have just been completely altered. Is all of this connected? In the meantime climate chaos continues to crush crop production around the world, how long till food store shelves in the US begin to empty out? All are needed in the critical battle to wake populations to what is coming, we must make every day count. Share credible data from a credible source, make your voice heard. Awareness raising efforts can be carried out from your own home computer." -Dane Wigington

parzival · 2022-05-08T05:06:00Z

Let's talk about chemistry... LOOK UP! THEY ARE SPRAYING US LIKE BUGS. (2020 DOCUMENTARY) [ Link ] * Geoengineering Watch Global Alert News, May 7, 2022, # 352 [ Link ] "Are the weather makers altering their script as flaws in their narratives come to light? A newly released science study has completely overturned the stated foundational premise for climate engineering / solar radiation management operations. Long tern weather "forecasts" for numerous regions have just been completely altered. Is all of this connected? In the meantime climate chaos continues to crush crop production around the world, how long till food store shelves in the US begin to empty out? All are needed in the critical battle to wake populations to what is coming, we must make every day count. Share credible data from a credible source, make your voice heard. Awareness raising efforts can be carried out from your own home computer." -Dane Wigington

parzival · 2022-05-08T11:44:27Z The W.H.O’s ‘Pandemic Treaty’ will end Freedom as we know it and hand the ‘keys to power’ to its largest private funder, Mr Bill Gates BY THE EXPOSÉ ON MAY 8, 2022 [ Link ] * ":...Last year, I interviewed Mary Otto-Chang, a former United Nations employee, who talked about the hijacking of the UN and the 2019 agreement [ Link ] between the UN and the World Economic Forum that the Fourth Industrial Revolution as a cooperation goal. So what we are looking at is using the authority of the UN as supposedly a just and wonderful international organization that protects the people for the commercial and philosophical goals of the richest people of the world. What an intricate lie!..."

parzival · 2022-05-08T11:44:27Z

The W.H.O’s ‘Pandemic Treaty’ will end Freedom as we know it and hand the ‘keys to power’ to its largest private funder, Mr Bill Gates BY THE EXPOSÉ ON MAY 8, 2022 [ Link ] * ":...Last year, I interviewed Mary Otto-Chang, a former United Nations employee, who talked about the hijacking of the UN and the 2019 agreement [ Link ] between the UN and the World Economic Forum that the Fourth Industrial Revolution as a cooperation goal. So what we are looking at is using the authority of the UN as supposedly a just and wonderful international organization that protects the people for the commercial and philosophical goals of the richest people of the world. What an intricate lie!..."

parzival · 2022-05-08T12:52:31Z 5 years later: [ Link ]

parzival · 2022-05-08T12:52:31Z

parzival · 2022-05-08T13:24:42Z

nedlud · 2022-05-09T14:36:35Z THE CHINA SYNDROME @parzival: China leads the way. They are ahead in every duplicative category and in every copied configuration. They are at the door and it is about to open and make true. Every possible conceivable nightmare. Where there is no waking. And no ending. China leads the way in horror and despair, they always have, they always will, for they have the ammunition, the control. Shhhhhh, now, be quiet......and go back to sleep. Just one more knock....one more knock....one more knock. ned, OUT

THE CHINA SYNDROME @parzival: China leads the way. They are ahead in every duplicative category and in every copied configuration. They are at the door and it is about to open and make true. Every possible conceivable nightmare. Where there is no waking. And no ending. China leads the way in horror and despair, they always have, they always will, for they have the ammunition, the control. Shhhhhh, now, be quiet......and go back to sleep. Just one more knock....one more knock....one more knock. ned, OUT

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-10T01:55:09Z parzival The Shanghai situation is a question for me. As I have stated before, it doesn't make sense that it is "covid" related. We don't have enough information. In this interview between Matt Ehret and Mel K, they discuss many topics including Shanghai. Matt is married to a Chinese woman, so I respect his judgment on what is happening. [ Link ]

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-10T01:55:09Z

parzival The Shanghai situation is a question for me. As I have stated before, it doesn't make sense that it is "covid" related. We don't have enough information. In this interview between Matt Ehret and Mel K, they discuss many topics including Shanghai. Matt is married to a Chinese woman, so I respect his judgment on what is happening. [ Link ]

parzival · 2022-05-10T04:36:28Z nedlud "Starving people in Shanghai have had enough. They break free from being held hostage in a high rise building..." [ Link ]

parzival · 2022-05-10T04:36:28Z

nedlud "Starving people in Shanghai have had enough. They break free from being held hostage in a high rise building..." [ Link ]

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T16:39:34Z Interesting discussion. Some preliminary thoughts. Jesus was asked, “What is Truth?” Silence. Plato’s cave: Truth is the shadows on the wall? What can you know staring at shadows? Human beings have intelligence, mind and heart, and we have organs of perception, like sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch, and others underdeveloped, like remote viewing, clairvoyance, see auras, see spirits, etc. Our perception of Truth then, like Plato’s cave, is limited by our current tools. Science as defined is a process. The universe is a process. Each individual is a process in consciousness ascending or descending. The laws we perceive are a description of intelligence. As above so below. Consciousness expresses itself as intelligent design, coherence and connectedness. If you want to understand the cosmos, you have to develop a cosmic mind. Gurdjieff would call it higher intellectual center.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T16:39:34Z

Interesting discussion. Some preliminary thoughts. Jesus was asked, “What is Truth?” Silence. Plato’s cave: Truth is the shadows on the wall? What can you know staring at shadows? Human beings have intelligence, mind and heart, and we have organs of perception, like sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch, and others underdeveloped, like remote viewing, clairvoyance, see auras, see spirits, etc. Our perception of Truth then, like Plato’s cave, is limited by our current tools. Science as defined is a process. The universe is a process. Each individual is a process in consciousness ascending or descending. The laws we perceive are a description of intelligence. As above so below. Consciousness expresses itself as intelligent design, coherence and connectedness. If you want to understand the cosmos, you have to develop a cosmic mind. Gurdjieff would call it higher intellectual center.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T16:44:52Z If you want to understand your Self, you have to develop higher emotional center.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T16:44:52Z

If you want to understand your Self, you have to develop higher emotional center.

Eventide · 2022-05-08T18:19:58Z Some thoughts that I had when listening to this very fun discussion (thank you!): It's consciousness that accomplishes calibration of the "universal constants" (that aren't universal or constant). Therefore, the 'habits' of the universe are habits of consciousness, and those habits change how the universe functions. Our experience of the universe is profoundly different from those who lived 5,000 years ago, and so the universe was actually different then! Likewise, the experience of the universe - and how it functions - will be profoundly different 5,000 years hence. If we truly recognized the power of bias in scientific endeavors, we'd understand that the hypothesis in the scientific method should happen LAST not FIRST. The overuse of the left brain was given a big boost (purposely so) by the imposition of advanced math requirements in order to get a four-year degree in ANYTHING (including the humanities or arts). The result has been that people who achieve influential positions are almost always those who are unbalanced toward left-brain analysis and concrete answer-seeking. Society is suffering hugely from the shrinking amounts of spendable 'social credit' - e.g., activities whose sole purpose is the advancement or promotion of quality or aesthetic creativity that advances human feelings and interactions. Result: Cultural degradation. I appreciate very much that Luc emphasized a fact that I always find hilarious - the human will has been deleted from the mechanistic perspective (unless it's the author's own will.) He/she's allowed to want or intend something, while everyone else's actions are asserted to be a function of mechanistic brain processes. Conversely, as Luc stated, fragments of whole processes or lives can be identified as interacting because they naturally "want" or "need" something or other. It seems that the ability to be self-critical about one's use of language becomes no easier just because one is highly educated!

Eventide · 2022-05-08T18:19:58Z

Some thoughts that I had when listening to this very fun discussion (thank you!): It's consciousness that accomplishes calibration of the "universal constants" (that aren't universal or constant). Therefore, the 'habits' of the universe are habits of consciousness, and those habits change how the universe functions. Our experience of the universe is profoundly different from those who lived 5,000 years ago, and so the universe was actually different then! Likewise, the experience of the universe - and how it functions - will be profoundly different 5,000 years hence. If we truly recognized the power of bias in scientific endeavors, we'd understand that the hypothesis in the scientific method should happen LAST not FIRST. The overuse of the left brain was given a big boost (purposely so) by the imposition of advanced math requirements in order to get a four-year degree in ANYTHING (including the humanities or arts). The result has been that people who achieve influential positions are almost always those who are unbalanced toward left-brain analysis and concrete answer-seeking. Society is suffering hugely from the shrinking amounts of spendable 'social credit' - e.g., activities whose sole purpose is the advancement or promotion of quality or aesthetic creativity that advances human feelings and interactions. Result: Cultural degradation. I appreciate very much that Luc emphasized a fact that I always find hilarious - the human will has been deleted from the mechanistic perspective (unless it's the author's own will.) He/she's allowed to want or intend something, while everyone else's actions are asserted to be a function of mechanistic brain processes. Conversely, as Luc stated, fragments of whole processes or lives can be identified as interacting because they naturally "want" or "need" something or other. It seems that the ability to be self-critical about one's use of language becomes no easier just because one is highly educated!

Winternights3 · 2022-05-08T18:23:53Z Eventide Hmm🤔 very 🙃

Winternights3 · 2022-05-08T18:23:53Z

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T19:36:18Z You cannot talk about science in our current time, without talking about limitations. If you understand what limits scientific development, you see what needs to change. First, money and funding determine what research can be done. This means financial power and special interests control academic research. Second, education determines what people are taught regarding existing scientific understanding, what and in what context it is taught, and how to develop your thinking to investigate and conceive of possibilities. CO2 is taught as the cause of climate change, hence we need to get rid of cattle. Third, political or agenda driven forces that determine if an individual scientist is allowed to publish or broadcast research, and whether that research or theory is censored or not. We see this is the plandemic , global warming, and bioweapons research. Fourth, National Security and secrecy forces that deny patents or research that are deemed a risk to National Security (by reviewing DARPA programs you come to understand that everything falls under National Security). Tesla’s research papers were confiscated at his death and classified, and over 5000 patents have been denied under National Security. Various national and world agencies, determine what is to be called truth or not, including FDA, FBI, CIA, CDC, WHO, etc. and of course Mockingbird media.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-08T19:36:18Z

You cannot talk about science in our current time, without talking about limitations. If you understand what limits scientific development, you see what needs to change. First, money and funding determine what research can be done. This means financial power and special interests control academic research. Second, education determines what people are taught regarding existing scientific understanding, what and in what context it is taught, and how to develop your thinking to investigate and conceive of possibilities. CO2 is taught as the cause of climate change, hence we need to get rid of cattle. Third, political or agenda driven forces that determine if an individual scientist is allowed to publish or broadcast research, and whether that research or theory is censored or not. We see this is the plandemic , global warming, and bioweapons research. Fourth, National Security and secrecy forces that deny patents or research that are deemed a risk to National Security (by reviewing DARPA programs you come to understand that everything falls under National Security). Tesla’s research papers were confiscated at his death and classified, and over 5000 patents have been denied under National Security. Various national and world agencies, determine what is to be called truth or not, including FDA, FBI, CIA, CDC, WHO, etc. and of course Mockingbird media.

sass · 2022-05-09T09:13:57Z The rise of empiricism and the rise of the LH. The round robin: greater objectivity equals greater separation. From the lab to our homes: TV brought separation to our personal lives as we observed each other and ourselves. The increasing observers of life and reducing participants. Unless of course you're special. But even then it's a pantomime - an act.

The rise of empiricism and the rise of the LH. The round robin: greater objectivity equals greater separation. From the lab to our homes: TV brought separation to our personal lives as we observed each other and ourselves. The increasing observers of life and reducing participants. Unless of course you're special. But even then it's a pantomime - an act.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T12:07:12Z In part of the discussion, the team talks of the morphogenic field of information that Rupert Sheldrake theorized based on experiments on animals and humans learning and the speed of that learning. Here is a TED talk that Rupert gives where he talks about science. TED banned it making it popular on Youtube. [ Link ]

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T12:07:12Z

In part of the discussion, the team talks of the morphogenic field of information that Rupert Sheldrake theorized based on experiments on animals and humans learning and the speed of that learning. Here is a TED talk that Rupert gives where he talks about science. TED banned it making it popular on Youtube. [ Link ]

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T12:28:06Z Dwoods44 Another link to open your thinking. is the sun conscious? [ Link ] Rupert uses the phrase "morphic resonance" for his theory, though field is also used elsewhere.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T12:28:06Z

Dwoods44 Another link to open your thinking. is the sun conscious? [ Link ] Rupert uses the phrase "morphic resonance" for his theory, though field is also used elsewhere.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T13:52:51Z Luc Montagnier, a Nobel prize winner for his work on HIV who died in the last year, in 2015 published research showing that DNA in one test tube could be "created" in an adjacent test tube containing only water. [ Link ] How is that possible?

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T13:52:51Z

Luc Montagnier, a Nobel prize winner for his work on HIV who died in the last year, in 2015 published research showing that DNA in one test tube could be "created" in an adjacent test tube containing only water. [ Link ] How is that possible?

Winternights3 · 2022-05-09T13:57:59Z Dwoods44 Everything isn't as it seems. Your journey, not for me to fill in the gaps, but a word of warning, BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU TREAD.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-09T13:57:59Z

Dwoods44 Everything isn't as it seems. Your journey, not for me to fill in the gaps, but a word of warning, BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU TREAD.

codis · 2022-05-09T14:10:10Z Dwoods44 Reminds me of the (in)famous Kaznacheyev experiments, which went into the opposite direction. But still the same prinziple, I suppose. And thinking of it, and the consequences of such a find, no wonder he is dead now. This is much more threatening to some people than his public and somehow alarmist claims about deaths to expect from the jab.

Dwoods44 Reminds me of the (in)famous Kaznacheyev experiments, which went into the opposite direction. But still the same prinziple, I suppose. And thinking of it, and the consequences of such a find, no wonder he is dead now. This is much more threatening to some people than his public and somehow alarmist claims about deaths to expect from the jab.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T23:22:48Z codis I am not sure how he died, but he was opposing the plandemic virus theory.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T23:22:48Z

codis I am not sure how he died, but he was opposing the plandemic virus theory.

codis · 2022-05-10T05:22:35Z Dwoods44 I am not sure how he died, ... Me neither. Despite his age, the opportune death of another critical voice (like Kary Mullis) is very suspicious. ... but he was opposing the plandemic virus theory. Not sure about his views in this matter. After all, he had been entrenched enough in the virus theory to get a Nobel price for "detecting" the so-called HIV virus. I only know he vehemently opposed the clot shots.

Dwoods44 I am not sure how he died, ... Me neither. Despite his age, the opportune death of another critical voice (like Kary Mullis) is very suspicious. ... but he was opposing the plandemic virus theory. Not sure about his views in this matter. After all, he had been entrenched enough in the virus theory to get a Nobel price for "detecting" the so-called HIV virus. I only know he vehemently opposed the clot shots.

I am not sure how he died, ...

... but he was opposing the plandemic virus theory.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T22:02:07Z codis Reminds me of the (in)famous Kaznacheyev experiments, [...] Awesome...

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T22:02:07Z

codis Reminds me of the (in)famous Kaznacheyev experiments, [...] Awesome...

codis Reminds me of the (in)famous Kaznacheyev experiments, [...]

codis · 2022-05-27T05:17:32Z azigzagidiot Have you heard about them ? Do you have a reasonable and credible souce ?

azigzagidiot Have you heard about them ? Do you have a reasonable and credible souce ?

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-27T22:52:14Z codis I had not heard of it. Most mentions I find from basic web search mention (formerly?) published materials (papers) that are now hard to find. Claims of weaponization by Soviets in two places, both linking to: this (cheniere .org, "Tom Bearden"'s) site, which is currently unavailable, but the webarchive is here: [ Link ] [It looks like a thorough write-up] I'm not to the Kaznacheyev experiments section yet... I am already joyous for the first part discussing Kervran 's experiments pointing at biological cold fusion (i.e. K + O = Ca (!)), as I had read about this somewhere and did not know the source, but had thought it made great sense in the case for elephants... Back to the topic, three searched resources now all mention Kaznacheyev experiments being published but now being unaccessible, or there is some obfuscation or difficulty, at least. Kaznacheyev was also involved with a construction called "Kozyrev's mirrors", a purportedly magnetically shielded structure, and he wrote a book called Cosmic Consciousness. Very interesting.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-27T22:52:14Z

codis I had not heard of it. Most mentions I find from basic web search mention (formerly?) published materials (papers) that are now hard to find. Claims of weaponization by Soviets in two places, both linking to: this (cheniere .org, "Tom Bearden"'s) site, which is currently unavailable, but the webarchive is here: [ Link ] [It looks like a thorough write-up] I'm not to the Kaznacheyev experiments section yet... I am already joyous for the first part discussing Kervran 's experiments pointing at biological cold fusion (i.e. K + O = Ca (!)), as I had read about this somewhere and did not know the source, but had thought it made great sense in the case for elephants... Back to the topic, three searched resources now all mention Kaznacheyev experiments being published but now being unaccessible, or there is some obfuscation or difficulty, at least. Kaznacheyev was also involved with a construction called "Kozyrev's mirrors", a purportedly magnetically shielded structure, and he wrote a book called Cosmic Consciousness. Very interesting.

codis · 2022-05-28T10:32:21Z azigzagidiot Back to the topic, three searched resources now all mention Kaznacheyev experiments being published but now being unaccessible, or there is some obfuscation or difficulty, at least. Kaznacheyev was also involved with a construction called "Kozyrev's mirrors", a purportedly magnetically shielded structure, and he wrote a book called Cosmic Consciousness. That was my point. Supposedly done in the '80 and in the Soviet Union, information is scarce. Only from questionable sources that seem not to care too much what they copy and past. However, the core of the experiments dealt with bio-photons. He supposedly poisoned a bacteria cell culture, and observed the the effect on another cell culture nearby, but hermetically separated. If both were separated by a quartz window (UV permeable), the second culture showed the same poisoning effects, and began to die off as well. With a normal glass window (almost no UV), these effect were not observed. According to claims, this effect was 100% reproducible. First, if true, this effect obviously contradicts germ theory, in which the medical and pharma profession has invested billions in. There are plenty of other inventions and discoveries that disappeared in vaults. And second Kaznacheyev, a famous Soviet scientist, was later (supposedly) involved in the "woodpecker" device, i.e. the microwave device causing the Havana syndrome. Which puts him firmly in the realm of military research ...

azigzagidiot Back to the topic, three searched resources now all mention Kaznacheyev experiments being published but now being unaccessible, or there is some obfuscation or difficulty, at least. Kaznacheyev was also involved with a construction called "Kozyrev's mirrors", a purportedly magnetically shielded structure, and he wrote a book called Cosmic Consciousness. That was my point. Supposedly done in the '80 and in the Soviet Union, information is scarce. Only from questionable sources that seem not to care too much what they copy and past. However, the core of the experiments dealt with bio-photons. He supposedly poisoned a bacteria cell culture, and observed the the effect on another cell culture nearby, but hermetically separated. If both were separated by a quartz window (UV permeable), the second culture showed the same poisoning effects, and began to die off as well. With a normal glass window (almost no UV), these effect were not observed. According to claims, this effect was 100% reproducible. First, if true, this effect obviously contradicts germ theory, in which the medical and pharma profession has invested billions in. There are plenty of other inventions and discoveries that disappeared in vaults. And second Kaznacheyev, a famous Soviet scientist, was later (supposedly) involved in the "woodpecker" device, i.e. the microwave device causing the Havana syndrome. Which puts him firmly in the realm of military research ...

Back to the topic, three searched resources now all mention Kaznacheyev experiments being published but now being unaccessible, or there is some obfuscation or difficulty, at least. Kaznacheyev was also involved with a construction called "Kozyrev's mirrors", a purportedly magnetically shielded structure, and he wrote a book called Cosmic Consciousness.

sass · 2022-05-09T14:41:45Z No idea sometimes about what people are on about around here.

No idea sometimes about what people are on about around here.

nedlud · 2022-05-09T14:58:13Z sass PEOPLE ARE STRANGE What to do? Look in the mirror. If you see your reflection, inhale. If you don't, exhale. If that doesn't work, try the reverse. Even a Buddha can only point the way. Who knows? These are very insane days we are living in. Maybe buy an electric car? On the installment plan? As a good investment? Support green growth? ?? Don't forget to pay your taxes. Or else we all go to hell. ned

sass PEOPLE ARE STRANGE What to do? Look in the mirror. If you see your reflection, inhale. If you don't, exhale. If that doesn't work, try the reverse. Even a Buddha can only point the way. Who knows? These are very insane days we are living in. Maybe buy an electric car? On the installment plan? As a good investment? Support green growth? ?? Don't forget to pay your taxes. Or else we all go to hell. ned

sass · 2022-05-09T15:02:38Z nedlud Ok thanks. I think.

nedlud · 2022-05-09T15:14:58Z sass No problem. We're all just tired and bored (and really really really upset) with our leaders, our various governments and institutions, religions, etc. I think. Otherwise, things wouldn't be near this crazy. ned

sass No problem. We're all just tired and bored (and really really really upset) with our leaders, our various governments and institutions, religions, etc. I think. Otherwise, things wouldn't be near this crazy. ned

sass · 2022-05-09T15:22:53Z nedlud , Sure, we all in the same club. I just wondered what Winternight was on about to Dwoods. But really, it's the same answer.. we all bored of the bs.

nedlud , Sure, we all in the same club. I just wondered what Winternight was on about to Dwoods. But really, it's the same answer.. we all bored of the bs.

sass · 2022-05-09T15:27:32Z nedlud , the game has just begun.

nedlud , the game has just begun.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T22:08:36Z sass be ye wary wherst ye land ye next footfall for be soft: thar be shifting sands, a trap door, a snare, the unseen spike, and mine; prepare to wend on torque'd ball as you traverse this place, a pit of bones, the angels dare not tread herein.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T22:08:36Z

sass be ye wary wherst ye land ye next footfall for be soft: thar be shifting sands, a trap door, a snare, the unseen spike, and mine; prepare to wend on torque'd ball as you traverse this place, a pit of bones, the angels dare not tread herein.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T23:35:24Z Rupert Sheldrake's morphic resonance is an information field or a cosmic mind. Some scientists like Tesla were able to connect to it. Another scientist of our time is Nassim Haramein. In 2014 when I began researching in earnest, I watched the Cognos 2010 conference in Spain on Youtube. In particular, I watched Nassim Haramein a self-made physicist who asked lots of questions. He was also a surfer(for you RC) and lived in his van in his teens, and he learned meditation at the age of 9. So he didn’t go to CalTech or MIT. He intuitively felt that quantum mechanics, Maxwell’s electromagnetitism, and Newton’s gravitational laws weren’t unified and that as physics became more complicated, it created constants to “fudge” experimental results so that they would give expected answers . One of the findings that physics ignored in the beginning, was the amount of energy in the universe was not explained by the “seen” universe which was only a small percentage. Now physicists have postulated dark energy or matter to explain this and other anomalies. Nassim also was struck by the fact that everything has spin, atoms, planets, stars, solar systems, galaxies, and the universe. Where does the spin come from? Nassim tells the story that at a physics conference presentation, he held up one of the Physics’ bibles on the page with the drawing of a man’s head blowing into a balloon as representing the big bang. He asked what that was. There was silence, because everyone thought he was going to bring up God. Over the years he has developed a unified theory based on tetrahedral structures within the vacuum to create torsion fields. The theory applies to atoms and it applies to galaxies. It explains where spin comes from. Some of his physics supporters told him to develop the mathematical formulas to prove it. With the collaboration of another physicist he has done that. Here is a link to one brief description of the theory. [ Link ] Nassim is important because he is investigating how to create zero point energy derived from the vacuum space. In his last presentation at Cognos in 2010, he got upset because someone was recording him, which was not allowed, when he was talking about his experiments. You can find a movie called Black Whole documentary, which encapsulates what he has done. It was on GAIA, and is no doubt available on Amazon.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-09T23:35:24Z

Rupert Sheldrake's morphic resonance is an information field or a cosmic mind. Some scientists like Tesla were able to connect to it. Another scientist of our time is Nassim Haramein. In 2014 when I began researching in earnest, I watched the Cognos 2010 conference in Spain on Youtube. In particular, I watched Nassim Haramein a self-made physicist who asked lots of questions. He was also a surfer(for you RC) and lived in his van in his teens, and he learned meditation at the age of 9. So he didn’t go to CalTech or MIT. He intuitively felt that quantum mechanics, Maxwell’s electromagnetitism, and Newton’s gravitational laws weren’t unified and that as physics became more complicated, it created constants to “fudge” experimental results so that they would give expected answers . One of the findings that physics ignored in the beginning, was the amount of energy in the universe was not explained by the “seen” universe which was only a small percentage. Now physicists have postulated dark energy or matter to explain this and other anomalies. Nassim also was struck by the fact that everything has spin, atoms, planets, stars, solar systems, galaxies, and the universe. Where does the spin come from? Nassim tells the story that at a physics conference presentation, he held up one of the Physics’ bibles on the page with the drawing of a man’s head blowing into a balloon as representing the big bang. He asked what that was. There was silence, because everyone thought he was going to bring up God. Over the years he has developed a unified theory based on tetrahedral structures within the vacuum to create torsion fields. The theory applies to atoms and it applies to galaxies. It explains where spin comes from. Some of his physics supporters told him to develop the mathematical formulas to prove it. With the collaboration of another physicist he has done that. Here is a link to one brief description of the theory. [ Link ] Nassim is important because he is investigating how to create zero point energy derived from the vacuum space. In his last presentation at Cognos in 2010, he got upset because someone was recording him, which was not allowed, when he was talking about his experiments. You can find a movie called Black Whole documentary, which encapsulates what he has done. It was on GAIA, and is no doubt available on Amazon.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:30:23Z Dwoods44 - Here is a link to one brief description of the theory. [Link] Bookmarked. Gracious amigo.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:30:23Z

Dwoods44 - Here is a link to one brief description of the theory. [Link] Bookmarked. Gracious amigo.

Here is a link to one brief description of the theory. [Link]

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-10T00:26:56Z The left brain as noted by Luc works through separating elements and giving them a representation, a name. The representation is not reality. Photosynthesis is a process by which every plant on earth transforms the energy of sunlight into energy for growth. We know the word, we do not know the reality of the process. There is a mystery in life that science of the left brain strips away. When you go for a walk, you stop seeing the whole, the wind, the light, the leaves of the trees swaying, you see the representation of the left brain. In Jesus’s teaching, he said we all had to be children. What does it mean? It means we have to see without representation. This is what Gurdjieff’s teaching of self-remembering points to. In that state you see the whole flow. So much of current science takes us away from being into a non-reality of representation. This could be the meaning of the Tower of Babel, every science has its own language that pretends to ascend to the level of God. Luc presented the concern, that the Intelligent Design scientists, might be taking us backward. However, I would phrase it this way. Sometime in the 19th century scientific materialism became the direction of science. The idea of a creator God was declared a belief, myth and superstition. Then all science was stripped of that idea. If you listen to some of Matt Ehret’s presentations, Darwinism won because he was part of the club, just like Newton. Darwinism has become the representation of scientific fact, rather than a theory. As a fact, it has affected philosophy, capitalism, war, and science itself. What is the reality? Intelligent design research is doing what it has to; demonstrate that Darwin’s theory of evolution does not work; it does not explain different ethnic people with different languages and different cultures. The Big Bang makes no logical sense; Rupert calls it the miracle that all cosmology depends on. In my view, based on Gurdjieff/Ouspensky’s Fourth Way, the foundation of reality is consciousness. Consciousness is intelligent design, coherence and connectedness. Everything is connected. What is consciousness? As Elan noted, awareness of experience that changes being.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-10T00:26:56Z

The left brain as noted by Luc works through separating elements and giving them a representation, a name. The representation is not reality. Photosynthesis is a process by which every plant on earth transforms the energy of sunlight into energy for growth. We know the word, we do not know the reality of the process. There is a mystery in life that science of the left brain strips away. When you go for a walk, you stop seeing the whole, the wind, the light, the leaves of the trees swaying, you see the representation of the left brain. In Jesus’s teaching, he said we all had to be children. What does it mean? It means we have to see without representation. This is what Gurdjieff’s teaching of self-remembering points to. In that state you see the whole flow. So much of current science takes us away from being into a non-reality of representation. This could be the meaning of the Tower of Babel, every science has its own language that pretends to ascend to the level of God. Luc presented the concern, that the Intelligent Design scientists, might be taking us backward. However, I would phrase it this way. Sometime in the 19th century scientific materialism became the direction of science. The idea of a creator God was declared a belief, myth and superstition. Then all science was stripped of that idea. If you listen to some of Matt Ehret’s presentations, Darwinism won because he was part of the club, just like Newton. Darwinism has become the representation of scientific fact, rather than a theory. As a fact, it has affected philosophy, capitalism, war, and science itself. What is the reality? Intelligent design research is doing what it has to; demonstrate that Darwin’s theory of evolution does not work; it does not explain different ethnic people with different languages and different cultures. The Big Bang makes no logical sense; Rupert calls it the miracle that all cosmology depends on. In my view, based on Gurdjieff/Ouspensky’s Fourth Way, the foundation of reality is consciousness. Consciousness is intelligent design, coherence and connectedness. Everything is connected. What is consciousness? As Elan noted, awareness of experience that changes being.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:32:42Z Dwoods44 - if everything is connected, then it follows as Kropotkin observed and espoused: things that are mutual are the most fit.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:32:42Z

Dwoods44 - if everything is connected, then it follows as Kropotkin observed and espoused: things that are mutual are the most fit.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:43:01Z Dwoods44 - So, if one concurs with that supposition, then what does it mean to be "Mutual"? Well, why not go back to kindergarten and try to remember the basic lessons they tried to teach. [ Link ] - by Robert Fulghum But before getting fixated on that book, why not read this one as well even if the author has a history: [ Link ] Forrest Carter was the author of the aforementioned book linked just above and don't we all have a history of this and that - some things we would do different if we could. I judge the book based on the contents and the "Education of Little Tree" is one hell of a book in my mind and credit is due. Virtue signal all you want, and try to cancel this and that, but if something speaks to the truth, if it is a good idea, then there is no way to keep it down - it will rise up and the truth will be known. As it rises some old ideas may need to die.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:43:01Z

Dwoods44 - So, if one concurs with that supposition, then what does it mean to be "Mutual"? Well, why not go back to kindergarten and try to remember the basic lessons they tried to teach. [ Link ] - by Robert Fulghum But before getting fixated on that book, why not read this one as well even if the author has a history: [ Link ] Forrest Carter was the author of the aforementioned book linked just above and don't we all have a history of this and that - some things we would do different if we could. I judge the book based on the contents and the "Education of Little Tree" is one hell of a book in my mind and credit is due. Virtue signal all you want, and try to cancel this and that, but if something speaks to the truth, if it is a good idea, then there is no way to keep it down - it will rise up and the truth will be known. As it rises some old ideas may need to die.

sass · 2022-05-10T00:47:21Z Dwoods44 , when things are named, the wave is collapsed and reality is narrowed and selective. When we name things, our attention becomes committed. A sustained attention creates bias, selections continue to be collected, while all else is shut out. This is indeed the manner in which it is possible to manipulate and create reality, as we only see what we want to see. Literally, reality is collapsed. But it's a narrowed and specific reality that is subjective. It's also severed from the whole and is therefore nonsensical thus becomes ill and neurotic. IMHO.

Dwoods44 , when things are named, the wave is collapsed and reality is narrowed and selective. When we name things, our attention becomes committed. A sustained attention creates bias, selections continue to be collected, while all else is shut out. This is indeed the manner in which it is possible to manipulate and create reality, as we only see what we want to see. Literally, reality is collapsed. But it's a narrowed and specific reality that is subjective. It's also severed from the whole and is therefore nonsensical thus becomes ill and neurotic. IMHO.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:51:50Z sass This sounds liken to a out of control matrix?

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:51:50Z

sass This sounds liken to a out of control matrix?

sass · 2022-05-10T00:54:43Z Winternights3 , the matrix is the consequence. While we are distracted, neurotic, and ill, other things can happen. This is what happens when hands are taken off the wheel.

Winternights3 , the matrix is the consequence. While we are distracted, neurotic, and ill, other things can happen. This is what happens when hands are taken off the wheel.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:56:14Z sass Acknowledgement, matrix. 🤣

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:56:14Z

sass Acknowledgement, matrix. 🤣

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:24:42Z sass Thanks for your insight.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:24:42Z

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:30:09Z Buffalo_Ken I haven't read Fulghum but his book was popular. I will find it in a library.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:30:09Z

Buffalo_Ken I haven't read Fulghum but his book was popular. I will find it in a library.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:33:33Z Mind matters hey, knowing when to smell a rat certainly helps

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:33:33Z

Mind matters hey, knowing when to smell a rat certainly helps

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:45:42Z Winternights3 - I smell the rat of winter and it is an ugly rat and smelly and barely survived in the depths and I'm gonna stomp on it now. After that, metaphorically of course, if I'm hungry I'll eat the damn rat. If I'm not hungry, I'll give the carcass to my cat.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:45:42Z

Winternights3 - I smell the rat of winter and it is an ugly rat and smelly and barely survived in the depths and I'm gonna stomp on it now. After that, metaphorically of course, if I'm hungry I'll eat the damn rat. If I'm not hungry, I'll give the carcass to my cat.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:48:33Z Buffalo_Ken In your dreams. Sleep well Ken.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:48:33Z

Buffalo_Ken In your dreams. Sleep well Ken.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:56:11Z Winternights3 - when you awake tomorrow, I hope you have a better day than you did today. May your brother remind you what it means to be humble. May your candle remain lit. May you remember the day you were born.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T00:56:11Z

Winternights3 - when you awake tomorrow, I hope you have a better day than you did today. May your brother remind you what it means to be humble. May your candle remain lit. May you remember the day you were born.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:58:00Z Buffalo_Ken You've become transparent, I laugh at you now.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T00:58:00Z

Buffalo_Ken You've become transparent, I laugh at you now.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T01:01:10Z Winternights3 - that is what Gangster A said to Gangster B just before they got took down. Think about that if you don't want to wake. You tire me WN3 - go to sleep or leave me alone or whatever. You just took a blessing and turned it into a curse.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T01:01:10Z

Winternights3 - that is what Gangster A said to Gangster B just before they got took down. Think about that if you don't want to wake. You tire me WN3 - go to sleep or leave me alone or whatever. You just took a blessing and turned it into a curse.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T01:18:14Z Buffalo_Ken "You just took a blessing and turned it into a curse" , I know how to deflect negative energy, sweet dreams.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T01:18:14Z

Buffalo_Ken "You just took a blessing and turned it into a curse" , I know how to deflect negative energy, sweet dreams.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T01:03:34Z Everything is screenshot. Your third and final faux paus.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T01:03:34Z

Everything is screenshot. Your third and final faux paus.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T01:04:44Z Winternights3 - prove it. I don't care for threatening language and spirits are rising up.....be aware and remember. A missile is on the way. It is precise.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T01:04:44Z

Winternights3 - prove it. I don't care for threatening language and spirits are rising up.....be aware and remember. A missile is on the way. It is precise.

Winternights3 · In your dreams · 2022-05-10T01:07:51Z

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T01:08:54Z Winternights3 - this is my final communication 2 U, but you are repeating yourself. Look up. Goodbye. Sweet Dreams.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-10T01:08:54Z

Winternights3 - this is my final communication 2 U, but you are repeating yourself. Look up. Goodbye. Sweet Dreams.

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T01:09:55Z If you see me walk down the street, run .

Winternights3 · 2022-05-10T01:09:55Z

If you see me walk down the street, run .

nedlud · 2022-05-10T14:16:04Z WE THE PEOPLE The star, the spar and the spur. They all go together. Don't they? ned, OUT

WE THE PEOPLE The star, the spar and the spur. They all go together. Don't they? ned, OUT

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T22:48:45Z nedlud we be stomping on each others' corns and stepping on toes, raising a hooting and hollering. If we could control the impressions we create it could be a properly spaced hoedown.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T22:48:45Z

nedlud we be stomping on each others' corns and stepping on toes, raising a hooting and hollering. If we could control the impressions we create it could be a properly spaced hoedown.

bbrebozo · 2022-05-10T22:01:00Z Great conversation on Technocracy linked below. [ Link ]

bbrebozo · 2022-05-10T22:01:00Z

Great conversation on Technocracy linked below. [ Link ]

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:23:21Z bbrebozo Thanks. Whitney Webb is one of the finest investigative reporters.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:23:21Z

bbrebozo Thanks. Whitney Webb is one of the finest investigative reporters.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T03:53:31Z Dwoods44 At the link from bbrebozo is an interview with Patrick Wood. It is a long interview. One of the discussions is how China developed and Brzezinski was the architect of experimenting with China as a technocracy. They talk about the multipolar versus unipolar, but I didn't hear Patrick's view if it was just another route to world government. They discuss the history of the TriLateral commission which was formed by Rockefeller and Brzezinski. They talk about the Moderna talking about their mRNA as an operating system.

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T03:53:31Z

Dwoods44 At the link from bbrebozo is an interview with Patrick Wood. It is a long interview. One of the discussions is how China developed and Brzezinski was the architect of experimenting with China as a technocracy. They talk about the multipolar versus unipolar, but I didn't hear Patrick's view if it was just another route to world government. They discuss the history of the TriLateral commission which was formed by Rockefeller and Brzezinski. They talk about the Moderna talking about their mRNA as an operating system.

Nathan Carney · 2022-05-11T04:14:42Z Dwoods44 thank you for the link to Whitney Webb et all

Nathan Carney · 2022-05-11T04:14:42Z

Dwoods44 thank you for the link to Whitney Webb et all

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:21:54Z Clif High at this link discusses, among the medbeds and Cathars, Einstein and Tesla. He states that Einstein was a Khazarian name stealer, and Tesla was marginalized. This idea of name stealing is the same as in Political Ponerology when psychopaths take over ideologies and beliefs, claiming them as their own, and then manipulating the believers into social activism. [ Link ]

Dwoods44 · 2022-05-11T01:21:54Z

Clif High at this link discusses, among the medbeds and Cathars, Einstein and Tesla. He states that Einstein was a Khazarian name stealer, and Tesla was marginalized. This idea of name stealing is the same as in Political Ponerology when psychopaths take over ideologies and beliefs, claiming them as their own, and then manipulating the believers into social activism. [ Link ]

codis · 2022-05-11T05:45:12Z Dwoods44 I knew of Einstein being a fraud and straw man for years. Even the work he got the Nobel prize for was written by his Serbian then-wife (Mileva Maric), whom he soon divorced afterwards. A legal battle for recognition by her family is still ongoing, AFAIK.

Dwoods44 I knew of Einstein being a fraud and straw man for years. Even the work he got the Nobel prize for was written by his Serbian then-wife (Mileva Maric), whom he soon divorced afterwards. A legal battle for recognition by her family is still ongoing, AFAIK.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T23:00:36Z Dwoods44 weird.. I had read that relativity had really already been developed by H.A. Lorentz, Henri Poincare, David Hilbert, but that Einstein had a particular 'interpretation' that he presented. Many people were upset at his lack of citing papers or sources from which he had almost certainly read and drawn ideas. codis that is interesting, that was for the photoelectric effect if I recall correclty. I may look into that some time in the future. Dwoods44 great material posts throughout here... Thanks to bbrebozo re: link

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T23:00:36Z

Dwoods44 weird.. I had read that relativity had really already been developed by H.A. Lorentz, Henri Poincare, David Hilbert, but that Einstein had a particular 'interpretation' that he presented. Many people were upset at his lack of citing papers or sources from which he had almost certainly read and drawn ideas. codis that is interesting, that was for the photoelectric effect if I recall correclty. I may look into that some time in the future. Dwoods44 great material posts throughout here... Thanks to bbrebozo re: link

codis · 2024-05-07T16:22:28Z azigzagidiot If you refer to Kaznacheev ... I came across some new references to his experiments, on reputable sites like researchgate. Papers written by Russian scientists with supposedly have access to his work, and are not restricted by Western politics. Like this : [ Link ] or this : [ Link ] (or this : https://siberes.ru/en/Academician-Kaznacheev-en/). Sites like bibliotecapleyades often delve far too deep into conspiracy without providing any facts (or the papers), so I hesitate to bring such links up.

azigzagidiot If you refer to Kaznacheev ... I came across some new references to his experiments, on reputable sites like researchgate. Papers written by Russian scientists with supposedly have access to his work, and are not restricted by Western politics. Like this : [ Link ] or this : [ Link ] (or this : https://siberes.ru/en/Academician-Kaznacheev-en/). Sites like bibliotecapleyades often delve far too deep into conspiracy without providing any facts (or the papers), so I hesitate to bring such links up.

parzival · 2024-05-09T02:59:27Z codis “Your inner thoughts aren't truly hidden. Their essence reflects in your energy. Energy speaks what you don't.” ~ D. Bablani Interesting papers you link to regarding communication using eak UV light & electromagnetism. Thanks!

parzival · 2024-05-09T02:59:27Z

codis “Your inner thoughts aren't truly hidden. Their essence reflects in your energy. Energy speaks what you don't.” ~ D. Bablani Interesting papers you link to regarding communication using eak UV light & electromagnetism. Thanks!

Dwoods44 · 2024-05-07T16:00:48Z I saw this interview between McGilchrist and Jordan Peterson. Excellent discussion. [ Link ]

Dwoods44 · 2024-05-07T16:00:48Z

I saw this interview between McGilchrist and Jordan Peterson. Excellent discussion. [ Link ]

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